the signifier is always more or less then the signified - and the signified is
always more or less then the signifer because the two are of a different order
and each accrues to their selves differences that by necessity cause a miss
alignment - the successful work of art takes this into account and attempts to
curtail the surplus by creating correlations rather than simple equivalencies

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Saul Ostrow | Visual Arts & Technologies Environment Chair, Sculpture
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: "Certainty"

In a message dated 11/1/08 10:26:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> Is fuzziness a certainty in art?
>
I'm not sure what you mean. One interpretation might be this: "When a creator
produces a work, is it always the case that what arises in a contemplator's
mind will be to some degree different from what was in the creator's mind?" I
say yes -- to some degree, always.

If what you meant is, "When someone contemplates a work, will the notion that
arises in his mind always be to some degree indeterminate, indefinite, and
unstable?" Again -- yes.

Or you may say, "I'm not talking about notions in anybody's minds. I'm
talking about fuzziness IN THE WORK."   I'm not sure what to cite as
"fuzziness in a
work", as distinguished from fuzziness in the notion occasioned by
contemplating the work. And certainly what one just might possibly want to
stipulate is
fuzziness IN a Beethoven sonata would be different from that in a Wallace
Stevens poem,   or a Pinter play, or a Robert Altman movie or a Rothko
painting.

Note:   If we're talking about fuzziness IN THE WORK as distinguished from in
anyone's NOTION, this is not an instance when "fuzzy FOR/TO WHOM" applies.


It's also possible someone might argue there can be no such thing as
fuzziness in, say, a fixed painting. Every line, every drop of paint, is
determinate,
definite, and stable -- even though they are all multiplex. Besides:
Consider:
  We should never ask how many parts a thing has, because "parts" are
arbitrary stipulates: How many "parts" does your face have?"



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