You can't beat this statement by Cheerskep re the Irving decision.  Tops.
WC


--- On Wed, 12/31/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Reputations of publishers
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 2:08 PM
> Chris writes:
> 
> "Unless his next play is a big hit -- this controversy
> just might be how 
> Thomas
> McCormack   will be most remembered on the internet."
> 
> It's true that we are frequently remembered (by the
> public) for some 
> relatively small event in our lives, and it's very hard
> to predict what it will be. 
> Often, if a person has never otherwise made the news,
> they're remembered solely 
> for some connection with another far more famous figue --
> or the person's 
> pathetic fame may come from, say, the sensational way he
> dies.
> 
> Eventually, to all intents and purposes most of us will be
> forgotten 
> entirely. If you Google or Wikipedia my name now, it'll
> appear on the first page. In a 
> generation, I may be on the thousandth page.   After my two
> children 
> graduated from my old alma mater, Brown U., I gave some
> money to the university to 
> build a little theater on campus and name it after our
> family. I can imagine some 
> time in the future when a student may ponder that name and
> wonder who the 
> hell they were. 
> 
> Even now in those Google entries, my connection with David
> Irving doesn't 
> appear in any of the early pages. The David Irving
> Wikipedia entry, though it's 
> approximately as long as Abraham Lincoln's entry(!),
> doesn't have my name (it 
> does have St. Martin's). 
> 
> After I die, I'd be willing to -- so to speak --
> "live with" being known as 
> the guy who killed Irving's book. You caught me by
> citing my vague "tone and 
> insinuations" reason. In fact there were quite
> specific justifications, but 
> detailed long-term memory of autobiographical info is not
> my strong suit, so I 
> couldn't lay those justifications out now without
> rereading the book. The 
> dominant general memory is of Irving's effectively
> exalting Goebbels as heroic 
> figure, and arguing that the Jews had it coming. 
> 
> As for "something valuable to add to the history of
> that period", there were, 
> as I recall, facts I personally didn't know and found
> interesting. But that 
> can be true of any holocaust-denier's well-researched
> book. Nevertheless, you 
> wouldn't publish a book that had 200 pages of
> condemnation of the Jews soley 
> because it had another twenty pages of interesting
> historical facts. 
> 
> And Irving was a good researcher -- in the sense of finding
> stuff. (His first 
> big book, DESRT FOX, a biography of Rommel, was deservedly
> a bestseller. The 
> problem was his selection of what, from his findings,
> he'd publicize and what 
> he'd suppress. There was a great brouhaha over his
> having been chosen to 
> translate Goebbels' diaries. Eighty pages of original
> microfiches evidently 
> disappeared after being loaned to him. What was in them? 
> 
> No, the editor who signed the book up was in no way
> anti-Semitic. But he was 
> at one time a PhD candidate in history, and I imagine he
> prized the acceptable 
> history more than he condemned the many suggestions that
> the Jews were an 
> invidious presence in Hitler's Germany that deserved
> what befell them. 
> 
> (What follows here is the rest of Chris's posting.)    
> 
> The author in question (David Irving) is a notorious
> holocaust-denier ---
> which is a terrible thing -- whether it's a denial of
> what Germans did to
> Jews, Turks to   Armenians, Japanese to Chinese, or Andrew
> Jackson to the
> Cherokee.
> 
> But ... as I followed the controversy on the net .. it was
> never clear to me
> that this involved the actual book under discussion (a
> biography of Joseph
> Goebbels)
> 
> If it did --- yes --- such thing should only be published
> by a Neo-Nazi press
> --- but if it didn't --- and if the book had something
> valuable   to add to 
> the
> history   of that period --    then the reputation of St.
> Martin's Press 
> would,
> I think, be called into question.
> 
> Especially -- now that Cheerskep is telling us that the
> problem was only with
> the "tone and insinuations" -- rather than with
> invalid historical facts or
> unreasonable interpretations.
> 
> Was the editor who approved it a Nazi sympathizer or Jew
> hater ? I suspect
> that he was quite bright and competent (if Cheerskep had
> put his trust in
> him)
> 
> What did he have to say in defense of his decision?
> 
> (I can understand if Cheerskep doesn't want to discuss
> this any more -- but 
> he
> did bring it up -- and it is a fascinating subject - and
> quite relevant to 
> the
> "reputation of publishers")
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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