Sorry, but I think to nod yep or nope to one another is not discussion.  What 
we need to do here is to examine concepts, no matter how "fuzzy" and try to 
distinguish their salient features.  If sentimentality is worthy of discussion 
in relation to art identity and aesthetics, then what is it and  what does it 
contribute or take away from the experience of art? 

Does sentimentality have something to do with longing?  Is it a willful retreat 
from reality to the residual precognitive sensations of infancy?

Is sentimentality a form of self-pity, a retreat from the hostile, indifferent 
reality to unthreatening and comforting imaginative ideas?

Is one ever sentimental about images of savagry, murder, horror? If so, is it 
misplaced to remembered context surrounding that imagery? 

And so on?

WC


--- On Mon, 1/19/09, Bela Cos <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Bela Cos <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: The good sort of sentimentality
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 9:31 PM
> So I feel too.
> Bela C
> 
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "armando baeza"
>   To: [email protected]
>   Cc: "armando baeza"
>   Subject: Re: The good sort of sentimentality
>   Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:33:31 -0800
> 
> 
>   Sentimentality is a word with as much fuzziness as
> Aesthetrics.
>   All art has it, is someone's individual mind. So i
> feel.
>   mando
> 
>   On Jan 19, 2009, at 8:34 AM, Chris Miller wrote:
> 
>   > Would anyone care to offer some positive examples of
>   > sentimentality in any of
>   > the arts ?
>   >
>   > Would anyone besides William characterize this
> "good sort" as
>   "rooted in
>   > values and human perseverance in reality"
>   >
>   > The first imaginative works that come to my mind are
> lamentations
>   over the
>   > dead Christ -- a theme I really like! -- with so
> many fine examples
>   in both
>   > painting (Giotto) and sculpture.(Donatello) But also
> -- many
>   > bad examples as
>   > well (Bouguereau). Happily -- the above distinction
> between those
>   three
>   > artists is shared by mainstream art history (or --
> at least used
>   > to be) -- but
>   > how might one explain it? All three of them can
> easily be
>   considered
>   > consummate craftsmen -- and wouldn't they all
> demonstrate what
>   William might
>   > call an intense concern for visuality ? And -- of
> course -- the
>   > mythical story
>   > is identical for all three.
>   >
>   > And wouldn't you say that all three versions are
> "steeped in
>   > sentimentality" ?
>   > (which is why -- that is not how I would identify
> the problems I've
>   had with
>   > Andrew Wyeth)
>   >
>   > And yet -- the bad ones fill me with despair, and
> the good ones
>   with joy and
>   > hope.
>   >
>   > How can this be explained ?
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
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