I don't know why David Shelby has waited a year to address Kirby's
excommunication, but since he was clearly against it - as were William and
myself,  I'm wondering just what kind of majority supported that action.

If it were 4 in favor and 3 against -- that would hardly qualify for the word
"consensus" that Cheerskep applied (although, I suppose, "consensus" is yet
another murky word that could mean anything to anyone)

I don't like being in a community where secret votes are held to throw people
out -- but maybe we'll find a better way next time.

(and BTW, some  may have felt personally attacked by Kirby, but back then, he
was only publicly accused of the  crime of  being persistently and gleefully
off-topic with his need to discuss national politics from a Christian
perspective.  The issue of ad hominem attacks has been recently addressed --
and I think we're agreed that, like bad weather, these are things that
happen)

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