William writes:

"I'm glad you liked the post re Greek sculpture. But your post suggests that 
you don't agree with one word of what I said."

No, don't think that. I did believe what you wrote. In remarking that 
Rodriguez has a body like that of, say, the discobolus, I meant to convey that 
an 
ordinary viewer like me fails in the same way as the Greeks: We don't observe 
that this statue is wrong, and I mean anatomically wrong, not just a faulty 
picture of the stresses of the particular position of a man throwing a discus. 

What the layman -- this layman, anyway -- observes is largely proportions, 
plus gross anatomy. Rodriguez, the discobolus, and, as I recall, some of the 
Nazi statuary, all have long legs, well muscled but not "heavy"; slender waist; 
and a strong upper body, again well-muscled, but supple-looking, capable of 
both power and quickness.   Other baseball players at the plate tend to look 
bulky, or, at best, "compact".   I have no personal regard for Rodriguez, for 
many 
reasons (including that I'm a Red Sox fan and he's a Yankee!), but there's no 
question he is unmatched in baseball for his "Greek God" physique, and the 
appearance is compounded by his physical adroitness. I don't question what you 
say about the abdominus oblique, but since Rodriguez always has a uniform on, 
we can't submit a picture of him to belie the discobolus representation.     

You yourself say the proportions of the Greek figures are not wrong in their 
idealizations. When you say, "What people respond to in preferring the Greek 
proportions in real people is not the actual details of measurement but the 
general rule of symmetry," I don't follow you. A gauntly skinny guy or grossly 
obese person can be symmetrical. What do you have in mind?



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