On Feb 25, 2009, at 12:41 PM, Chris Miller wrote:

O.K., William, then it's not all about money.

But what's the harm in someone else "cashing in on my work and plagiarizing it." ?

What's the harm in someone sleeping with your wife when you're out of town? It's not like they're taking her away from you.

If your original ideas were good ones, why not let everyone take credit for them? Without copyright, the plagiarizers will themselves be plagiarized.

I like that Sherwoodian logic: Steal from anybody, so that then the thieves will be stolen from, too, so there, shows them!

I remember participating in the 1969 antiwar march in Washington. We got there early and had front row seats on the grass, right in front of the speakers platform, near the Washington Monument.

While the 500,000 or so arrived, they kept us interested until the big guns, like Spock and Hoffman (actually, I forget exactly who, but the main attractions, anyway), arrived with other people talking, exhorting, haranguing, etc. I remember one guy got up there and told his story of dropping out of high school and finding an unoccupied apartment in a run-down block in Philadelphia, and being very very angry at being told he had to leave because he was squatting there, and he didn't have enough money and why did the rich bastard landlord have to kick him out, etc. In the midst of my expansive antiwar feelings and general liberal compassion toward the downtrodden who were being oppressed by the entrenched fascist owner class, I looked up at the guy and thought, "Get the fuck outta here, you drug-addled commie. You wanta live there? Then pay the rent. Geez, this is about the Vietnam War, not your pissy beef about not wanting to pay the rent."

Opposing the property rights protections of copyrights is like the squatter in Philly. It's wanting something for free. It devalues the article, and it devalues yourself, too. How can quality have any intrinsic value when you don't want to give value for it?

Isn't the circulation of good ideas more important than anybody's reputation?

No.

(and once again, Cheerskep, in our new internet world, the cost of
publication and distribution is ZERO -- a major change since the days of Queen
Anne)

Except about a thousand dollars for a computer, an internet connection, an internet account where you can post your work for others to plagiarize, etc., not to mention the value of your time, unless you don't value your own time, in which case that component is nil.

Yes -- priestly blessing should not be for sale -- and neither should the
intellectual's voice. (and in Luther's day, those was the same thing)

Those was?

BTW -- I'm not for revoking copyright law -- but I am for considering its
negative as well as positive consequences. And when copyright law is
encouraging art museums to keep good reproductions of their collection off the
internet, that's a serious problem as far as I am concerned.

Name a few names? The Chicago Institue? Any others? I don't know of any museum that puts its entire collection on line, or even a large part of it. Don't forget that it takes a while to prepare the pages, link them properly so they can be accessed, etc. That means time, money, staff work, general maintenance costs, etc. BTW, the copyright law doesnt' "encourage" the museums to keep reproductions off the web, other considerations do.







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