So ,it's coming down to that!
Saul,stay with the subject at hand.
The art that comes from the essence can be any symbol that moves you.
Don't be so rigid, relax a little.
thanks for your image of me
"Pretty boy"
mando,

On Apr 12, 2009, at 6:43 AM, Saul Ostrow wrote:

Wrong again pretty boy - it is the essence that is the identifable thing - the image is just the means to get to it - consequently our hypothetical artist looks at a chair and draws a single quivering line - that sums up the essence of the being of things in general and the object they were looking at in specific - I think you need to hone your skills in abstract thought - if your
going to read philosophy


On 4/12/09 8:12 AM, "Chris Miller" <[email protected]> wrote:

"If someone is making a work that unconceals the true essence of
something,that person is making art"

It's the same as looking or thinking of a chair and drawing a large rock. I
agree. That"s what I've always done, because it's our only choice. mando


But if your drawing does not unconceal the "true essence" of some
identifiable
thing, then you haven't made a work of art, Mando -- at least, according to
Heidegger.

And since art is logical, there is only one true essence for everything (even for Mando) : if A does not equal B, then the essence of A does not equal the essence of B. This is especially problematic for a painter like William who intends to make that which appears meaningless. I doubt that Heidegger
would
hold that intention against him, but he would only consider William an artist
if he failed to achieve it.

Heidegger is something of an imperialist.

In any period of time, there is one, and only one set of true essences -- there are no exceptions for cultural diversity. (just as there weren't in
the
great totalitarian states of the 20th C.)

The contemporary artworld is the same way. It will only recognize artists from China or India if those artists have abandoned their own traditions and
are presenting the tropes of contemporary art.  (the public art now in
Millennium Park, Chicago, is a fine example - from Anish Kapoor's bean to the
hot new Chinese sculptors now on temporary display.)







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