this is anecdotal information - it does not extend from the object - nor i
does this aspect ability to identify something the economic, social, and
cultural circumstances of its audience be a mark of its makers success  - this
is another Miller shell game - bait and switch - using the part rather than
the whole - because he could not deal with the whole - which had to do with
the successful work of art - and its ability to reflect the  the economic,
social, and cultural
circumstances of its audience - in which is often centuries after the fact
its been fun - to know that nothing ever changes here

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Saul Ostrow | Visual Arts & Technologies Environment Chair, Sculpture
Voice: 216-421-7927  | [email protected] | http://www.cia.edu/
The Cleveland Institute of Art | 11141 East Boulevard, Cleveland, OH 44106
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 12:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Heidegger and Singularity-string

I think Miller is right to claim that any made object can reveal or point to
the societal context to which it belongs.  He has an indisputable position.

 For instance, in the 18-19C,  before paper clips, people pinned their notes
together, using long pins.  No doubt there were many pricked fingers.  So
there was a context begging for a useful object.  We should not assume that
the object precedes the context; often, the context precedes the object.  Art
can precede its context or be at one with it or follow it.  How do we make
those distinctions?
WC




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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:53:35 AM
Subject: Re: Heidegger and Singularity-string

Miller writes:Saul, can you offer, as example,  a single manufactured
object that does not
"continue to identify something the economic, social, and cultural
circumstances of its audience"?



Radiator brushes,button hooks,pencils,paper clips aren't quite universal
enough. They presuppose
steam heat,boots,a need to write things down, and a need to separate piles
of paper,itself a manufactored object.   Wouldn't something like string be
less identifiable? Also, Miller's question   has no pertinence to the problem
at hand,which is the way he usually conducts his arguments. I am surprised
at the improvement in his prose, one might almost think he had engaged
someone else to write his responses.
Kate Sullivan


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