I'd probably help a Hitler in that case but I 'd tell him to grab the Rembrandt 
on the way out.  My reasoning is that Hitler may repent or be brought to 
justice, I mean he can still make moral choices and be subject to those made by 
others even if he's otherwise helpless.


WC


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From: armando baeza <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: armando baeza <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 2:50:16 PM
Subject: Re: Why is it that some people believe that artworks have to be  saved 
?

The cat or a Rembrandt is easy as a choice. What if the choice is between 
Hitler unable to help himself and
a Rembrandt.
mando

On May 5, 2009, at 11:40 AM, William Conger wrote:

> Why is it that some people believe that artworks have to be saved?  From 
> what?  If from certain destruction or damage, the reasons are primarily for 
> the sake of value or sentimentality.  If from oblivion, for anticipated value 
> or sentimentality.  If for pride, then for the sake of culture and 
> sentimentality.  The real question is, What is worthy about sentimentality?
> 
> As for the cat or the Rembrandt, assuming it's an authenticated Rembrandt 
> painting and not a restruck print (can be rather cheaply acquired) I'd choose 
> the painting because the cat is animate and evolved to provide for itself, 
> more or less, and therefore has a fighting chance to escape while the 
> painting is inanimate, defenseless, and more valuable.  From a cultural 
> standpoint at least, it has more sentimental value that the cat.
> 
> We live in a material world and value everything in material terms.  We also 
> live in a world of values and spiritual aspiration.  The two should be 
> happily blended, whenever possible since the extreme of each is destructive 
> to both.   This was Goethe's theme and it's not bad.  So who says one can't 
> cheat in a desperate situation and grab for  the cat on the way out  with the 
> painting snugly held?
> 
> WC
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Chris Miller <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 10:31:51 AM
> Subject: Why is it that some people believe that artworks have to be  saved ?
> 
> Luc asked:
> 
> "why is it that some people believe that artworks have to be saved ? or
> rescued?"
> 
> 
> Kirby touched on this question a few years ago.
> 
> A house is burning,  and all you can rescue is either the Rembrandt on the
> wall or the kitten on the floor. Which would you choose ?
> 
> Being the good Lutheran that he was, Kirby chose to save the living, beloved,
> somewhat human creature -- while being an  aesthete, I would rescue the great
> painting.  (even if, as a cat lover, I realize that every cat, like every
> painting, is unique and irreplaceable)
> 
> My reasons?
> 
> They're really no  better than Kirby's.
> 
> It's just that I love paintings more than cats, am grateful that people have
> saved them for me, and feel somewhat responsible for saving them for future
> generations.
> 
> Though, arguments could also be made that art works help create a sense of
> cultural identity that is the fabric of social life.  I think this is the role
> that calligraphy was given in traditional Chinese civilization, and why it was
> patronized by every imperial court.
> 
> Aren't similar arguments still being made to justify various kinds of
> institutional support, above and beyond whatever an open ,free market might
> provide?
> 
> Though in our polyglot society, such arguments are a bit weaker.
> 
> 
> 
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