You cleverly distort what I wrote, or don't read mindfully.
I don't distinguish biological systems from physical laws. It would be stupid.
Biological systems have additional laws to deal with and human biological
systems have more additional laws of information to deal with, like psychology
and language.
Everything is based on physical laws, even spirituality of humans.
Boris Shoshensky
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Beauty is considered to be the culmination or perfection of
speci fic qualities
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:47:14 GMT

Boris wants  to set the human "spiritual component" apart (and above) the
rest
of biology, and then distinguish  biological systems from physical laws, and
he's not alone is he?  These distinctions are so embedded in modern,
secular,
European thought, Boris only needs to assert them, no further explanation is
required.

But joining the various pre-modern traditions, I'm more aware of a "spiritual
component" in everything, and the attraction between the earth and sun is not
so categorically different from the attraction between a man and his wife.
(so
it needs to  be nurtured and renewed with rituals, prayers, and such, and I
would far rather see my city  build a
temple to the sun rather than another luxury high-rise).

The attraction of the bee for the flower is not so different as the
attraction
that I have for  the paintings of Rembrandt and Titian.(as well as for
flowers)

Recently, by way of asserting our exclusive rights to the kitchen, we've
installed some pheromone insect traps beneath the refrigerator.

Those poor creatures are helplessly attracted to their doom.

But just so -- if a special  exhibit of Titian (early rather than late!)
were
held in the local museum, and the gallery floors were painted with glue, I
would get just as stuck.

(BTW,  if  "To use the word attraction in the connection between earth and
sun
is stupid", then such stupidity is rampant. Look up "Gravity" on Wikipedia.
As I'm sure Boris knows, gravity is a very complex, difficult subject, and
while we can accurately measure its attraction, we really can't account for
it. Just like our attraction for beautiful art - even if we can't list
specific qualities )


>I am sorry I complemented you on separating human attraction to the
aesthetic
of beauty in arts and  human and animal attraction to purely
physiological elements in the mechanisms of survival.
I don't like recycled discussions, but I will help clarify your own writing
for you. Experiencing the work of art is much more then attraction of a bee
to
the
flower. The difference is a spiritual component and involvement of a human
creation. To use the word attraction in the connection between earth and sun
is stupid,
so I try to avoid to do that. They are not biological systems.
Their survival depends on physical laws, not 'Darwinism'.
Boris Shoshensky



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