In a message dated 6/26/09 9:20:27 AM, [email protected] writes:
> "In > this discussion when I say 'mark', the notion I'd like to arise in your > mind > is that of any visually observable change in the surface appearance of any > physical object whatever -- painting, sculpture, building, tree, wall, > pond, > mountain." > > Using that definition, what newly illuminating notions do you think follow > from contemplating that definition of 'mark'? > none. I wasn't discussing anything but the marks made deliberately by artists on surfaces,preferably with some pigmented substance. Boris said:We are talking marks in connection to visual arts. Mark is a result of using mark-making tool. Brady said:A mark is a distinctive visual artifact. Style - from stylus, a writing instrument, a thing that makes a mark. Mark - a touching of a surface, a line made as an indication or record of something Miller said:Miller's proposed definition -- offered as a question was "Is a mark whatever is done to a surface in a single uninteruppted touch?" Conger said: But actually Miller's definition implies this already while it also implies marks being limited to human action alone. I merely wanted to clarify that minor ambiguity. Cheerskpe said: I think most listers would accept a completed painting or sculpture as "a distinctive visual artifact". But then, how would that square with Miller's primary requirement: "A mark is whatever is done to a surface in a single uninteruppted touchb& ." A whole painting in a single uninterrupted touch? No. Paintings are made up of marks,as plays are made of sentences. This is not adequate ridicule on Cheerskep's part. We could say that a mark is an single uninteruppted touch on a surface made by a human being with a mark making tool in an attempt make an indication or a record of something. The question remains, how and why do these things vary so wildly in kind from aesthetically accepted work to aesthetically work. This is interesting because they are the noumenal instance of a phenomena. Cheerskep said: The second half of my gripe was this: the thread is fruitless. Its would-be fruit is a compendium of the untenable and the obvious. Ah, they all say that. Kate Sullivan ************** Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000005)
