Then there is the mark of Cain

On 6/26/09 5:31 PM, "armando baeza" <[email protected]> wrote:

It's uniqueness is also a mark.!!!!My friend is a Mark!
  (mando is a mark)

On Jun 26, 2009, at 2:24 PM, armando baeza wrote:

> In clay sculpture a mark often times are finger prints.
> So what is really the problem here?How about signature?
> mando
>
> On Jun 26, 2009, at 1:30 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Michael writes the material between the brackets:
>>
>> [On Jun 26, 2009, at 1:38 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Miller's definition was this:
>>>
>>> "A mark is whatever is done to a surface in a single uninteruppted
>> touch." Miller's definition implies marks being limited to human
>> action
>> alone.
>>
>> Where? I'm afraid I don't see it.]
>>
>> I bracket it, because my small worry is that succinct but sloppy
>> lingo by
>> me may have led Michael to think he's responding to me when he
>> says, "But
>> your assertion above is one of them inference things, not an
>> implication.
>> *You*
>> interpreted "single uninterrupted touch" to convey exclusively human
>> touching, not bird-poo. . ."
>>
>> What cheers...@aol>COM actually wrote was:
>>
>> [But earlier William conveyed that Miller's definition was this:
>>
>> "A mark is whatever is done to a surface in a single uninteruppted
>> touchb&.
>> Miller's definition
>> implies marks being limited to human action
>> alone."]
>>
>> In fact, however, I largely agree with William's "interpretation"
>> of what
>> Chris had in mind. William might have been clearer if he'd said,
>> "Miller's
>> definition suggests. . ."
>>
>> In any case, I presume Chris Miller lives on, though he may be
>> taking a
>> long weekend. When he gets back perhaps he'll answer our feather-
>> weight
>> question: Did you, Chris, have in mind solely human doings when
>> you wrote, "A
>> mark
>> is whatever is done to a surface in a single uninteruppted touch"?
>>
>> Michael goes on to say:
>>
>> "As for my reply to Kate, I was addressing only the nature of
>> human-made
>> marks. What I said did not preclude non-human-made marks. . .
>>
>> I'd say you did a bad job of conveying that. You wrote:
>>
>> [A mark is a distinctive visual artifact.
>>
>> Style - from stylus, a writing instrument, a thing that makes a mark.
>> Mark - a touching of a surface, a line made as an indication or
>> record of
>> something
>>
>> The marks left on the surface--of a painting or of a sculpture,
>> even--
>> embody and preserve the action of the maker's hand, that is, his
>> *sytle*. No
>> two
>> people make identical marks, or make marks with identical physical
>> characteristics. Forgeries or handwriting or.. . . ]
>>
>> I hope you can see why these remarks about "the maker's hand" are
>> likely to
>> send readers away with the idea that the notion of 'marks' you had
>> in mind
>> was restricted to human product.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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