Anything extreme is not working. Distortion or rules.
Boris Shoshensky

---------- Original Message ----------
From: armando baeza <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: armando baeza <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Only an academic figure drawing can be wrong
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:18:25 -0700

One may also say, that extreame distortion is not as important as
good design.
mando

>
> On Sep 23, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Boris Shoshensky wrote:
>
Distortion based on skill is a good way to go.








>> For me 'wrong' is when the function of a creative harmony is absent.
>> Creative distortion is not wrong. 'David' is anatomically incorrect.
>> But give me that distortion all the time. The problem part of
>> academic drawing
>> is lack of expression, the good part is technical skill.
>> Distortion based on
>> skill is a good way to go.
>>  Why is this an interesting issue? For you as an artist it is not.
>> As a
>> teacher it is important, I think.
>> Boris Shoshensky
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Only an academic figure drawing can be wrong
>> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:18:03 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>> What is any discipline of life drawing?  There's something wrong
>> about the
>> noses in Greek Classical Art, so how is that the Greek Profile
>> became so
>> commonplace in academic art?  Incidentally, there's something
>> wrong about
>> almost all of Classical Greek art with respect to anatomic
>> accuracy. The Greek
>> artists relied on tradition, purpose,  and external observation
>> and not on the
>> internal facts of anatomy or strict objectivity.  They made highly
>> distorted
>> figures for both practical and expressive purposes.
>>
>> The reason people can tell if the nose is wrong, but probably not
>> be able to
>> tell if the arm or toes are wrong has to do with the relatively
>> large area of
>> the human brain devoted to face recognition.
>>
>> If you say, "Depict the human body according to these
>> rules" (whatever rules
>> you list),  then when the result does not conform to those rules,
>> the result
>> is wrong. Academic life drawing instruction often followed such
>> rules -- both
>> pertaining to measurement and style and to media techniques.  Why
>> is this an
>> interesting issue?
>> wc
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:56:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: Only an academic figure drawing can be wrong
>>
>> In a message dated 9/21/09 10:32:14 AM, [email protected]
>> writes:
>>
>>
>>> By "academic", I'm not referring to a specific academy or canon,
>>> but to
>>> any
>>> discipline of life drawing.  So a drawing is not "wrong" because it
>>> violates
>>> any specific academic criteria, and I wasn't limiting such
>>> judgment to
>>> those
>>> who are  even familiar with much artwork or the concept of "art"
>>> at all.
>>> "There's something wrong about the nose" is a comment that might
>>> come from
>>> anybody able to see and speak.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I thought you said you were emulating Pontormo and Bronzino   both
>> of whom
>> had some very beautiful criteria.
>> KAte Sullivan
>>
>>
>>
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