How about consistency of what you call wrongness. What it tells more then wrongness? Boris Shoshensky
---------- Original Message ---------- From: armando baeza <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: armando baeza <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Only an academic figure drawing can be wrong Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:39:25 -0700 i think consistency tells more about one's work than rightness on wrongness The identity of the artist in their work has significance, mando On Sep 22, 2009, at 9:01 AM, Chris Miller wrote: > There's something wrong about every figurative representation. You > only have > to look closely enough. But a representation has been successful > when you're > thinking about something else. > > Of course, there are always some people who can't (or won't) follow > where > artists can go - and that's what you're doing as you notice that > "There's > something wrong about the noses in Greek Classical Art". Though, > presumably, > you could also ignore that concern if you wished (some people can't > - like Ayn > Rand when she complains about the grotesque wrongness of all Medieval > sculpture) > > The rightness of a life drawing (or sculpture) is not contingent on > specific > rules, because so many different rules (pertaining to measurement > and style > and to media techniques) can be successfully applied. > > And if it appears that no rules or disciplines have been applied > -- as with > the work of children -- then rightness/wrongness is not even > relevant. > > But once a discipline has been felt, rightness/wrongness becomes a > primary > issue in the representation of a human figure. > > Or, at least, that's my (un-proven) theory regarding most people. > (including > myself -- though I would say "the painting is wrong" rather than > "the nose is > wrong") > > > ........................................ >> What is any discipline of life drawing? There's something wrong >> about the > noses in Greek Classical Art, so how is that the Greek Profile > became so > commonplace in academic art? Incidentally, there's something wrong > about > almost all of Classical Greek art with respect to anatomic > accuracy. The > Greek > artists relied on tradition, purpose, and external observation and > not on > the > internal facts of anatomy or strict objectivity. They made highly > distorted > figures for both practical and expressive purposes. > > The reason people can tell if the nose is wrong, but probably not > be able to > tell if the arm or toes are wrong has to do with the relatively > large area of > the human brain devoted to face recognition. > > If you say, "Depict the human body according to these > rules" (whatever rules > you list), then when the result does not conform to those rules, > the result > is > wrong. Academic life drawing instruction often followed such rules > -- both > pertaining to measurement and style and to media techniques. Why > is this an > interesting issue? > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Put your loved ones in good hands with quality senior assisted > living. Click > now! > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/ > BLSrjnxVLPaqIcsCxStZGqALEIIBHC > Y9D5PodMLJ0KSMhOZRmIfHSGc2Cju/
