You never can tell who will do what badly. There are several painters or illustrators who stopped what they were known for and started making work for art's sake and didn't do as well-mucha,Rockwell,nc Wyeth ,and of course sir William Gilbert wrote" real operas". Vasari mentions several who got carried away by art also.
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On Sep 9, 2011, at 6:09 PM, [email protected] wrote:

I certainly could benefit from a lot more clarification, but this thought persists in my head: The fact that Van Gogh's and Godel's work primarily went
on in their heads, in their brains, would not justify me in saying
therefore they must both be the product of something called "intellect" and thus they must both be "the same" in any useful way. I still suspect it's more
useful for us as aestheticians to look into the differences.

When I see the word 'intellect', the notion that arises in my mind has much in common with my "high intelligence" notion, but the two notions tend not
to be identical. Very roughly I may be able to convey it this way: My
'intellect' notion varies somewhat with the context, but the core of it is something like "the ability to think", while 'high intelligence' stirs "ability to think at a high level across a broad range range". I admit the distinction feels fuzzy, (but all notion is fuzzy to an extent), however it has its
serviceability.

But I also feel the brain produces elements of consciousness that don't feel like the exclusive product of intellect. An example is my "aesthetic experiences". My reactions to objects I'd call "beautiful" seem to arise from
parts of the brain that have little do with cogitation, ratiocination,
intellect. Put more broadly: Those reactions arise not out of logic but out of "sensibility". I do agree with William's argument that "taste/style" can be learned insofar as it's information about things that are or were approved by
accepted "sophisticates".

But I don't think of "taste/style" as identical to sensibility or
imagination. My guess is that almost all of us on this forum have had this personal experience as children: Our very first encounter with a specimen of a genre -
far earlier than we'd had any education or training in that genre -
resulted in, in effect, an "aesthetic experience". A while ago I recounted on the
forum something a famous dancer told me as we were publishing her
autobiography. She said that before her parents took her to see a ballet, "I had no idea people did this." But with this, her initial knowledge, initial exposure to ballet, she was immediately and ecstatically transported, and knew this
would be her life's devotion.

I don't think that, as an adult, one can "learn" the sensibility that
reacts with what I'm calling an "aesthetic experience" to certain works by
Mozart, Van Gogh, Auden, Pavarotti, Shakespeare, Dickinson, et al.

So it's a corollary that a person of "high intelligence" can lack
"sensibility". And, to repeat, my own experience has told me that you can often simultaneously have great strengths at the first and great weaknesses at the
second.

I tried to describe what I called "high intelligence" as the workings of the brain that result in high scores across the range of academic disciplines,
I summoned the image of a woman with a summa performance in all her
academic efforts. I still maintain there seems to be no strong correlation between
that broad range of "intellectual gifts" and creativity in "art".

I base that judgment on extensive study of the lives of people accepted as accomplished in the "arts", and, perhaps more persuasive, I base it on my
personal acquaintance with a good number of those "summa" people.   My
acquaintance includes, but is not limited to, people whom I have edited. I've been regularly startled by seeing a "brilliant mind" dismally obtuse about his or her shortcomings in "creative arts". One can be taught the "craft", but not the "art". And this is in part because there is nothing you can learn that will create within you sensibility. I've seen what I felt to be superb critics, editors, and scholars of "creative artists" try their hand at that
kind of creation and fail by a wide margin.

I will read with attention all responses to these last two postings of
mine. But I confess that if I discern the responder is bent only on finding what's wrong, I'll know I can't benefit from his remarks nearly as much as from those of someone who also is able to register when something is right or interesting. This isn't because I want only approval. I'm sure I've gone wrong more than once - and I want to be told about my bungles - I continue to be almost suspiciously non-brittle. But I'm sure that not everything I've said here is wrong, and I'll know that anyone who feels it IS all wrong does not have either the intellect or sensibility - or fair-mindedness -- to be taken
seriously.

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