Problem: I want to point out that much of this discussion has taken place on the news part of aesthetics on line and that we are not sup[posed to do this, as people subscribe to the news list because they don't want the discussion. If there is any further discussion on this subject make sure that the address "[email protected]" does not appear in the address part of your email. The address part is the part that is headed by "to".
And I don't think being "first rate" has anything to do with being able to see the value of something you don't like and wouldn't do and still being able to look critically at your own work. Kate Sullivan -----Original Message----- From: saul ostrow <[email protected]> To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Jun 8, 2012 3:50 pm Subject: Re: Scott Fitzgerald quote and "the definition of an artist" "The test of a first-rate artist is the ability to appreciate the work of another artist that is unlike their own while at the same time and still retain the ability to be critical of their own work. As such they should, for example, be able to see the genius in others and while being determined to question their own." On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 3:17 PM, ARMANDO BAEZA <[email protected]> wrote:
Maybe one who stays in balanced between the yin and the yang in creativity. ab ________________________________ From: Tom McCormack <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 11:09 AM Subject: Scott Fitzgerald quote and "the definition of an artist" My son Dan is a film director and screenwriter in Hollywood. He puts the following question to me. ". . .Do you know of any famous modification of Fitzgerald's quote -- "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function"? I have a vague recollection of somebody's adjusting that quote to talk about the definition of an artist. Does this ring any bell? If it was in some movie, I'll drop it." In typical father fashion, I lumbered Dan with all sorts of reservations about the FSF line (which, in fact, Dan shared) but I admitted it did have a certain fuzzy provocativeness (much that's provocative in art depends on an element of fuzziness). But I had no recollection of the line's being altered to talk about the definition of an artist. Can any members help me (and Dan)? Tom McCormack ASA New York City
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