If you don't like tha tone - maybe it has to do with drinking and still being able to hold up tow opposing two contradictory opinions without caring
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 4:31 PM, saul ostrow <[email protected]> wrote: > First rate does not mean your any good - it just means you rank > > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 4:17 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Problem: I want to point out that much of this discussion has taken >> place on the news part of aesthetics on line and that we are not >> sup[posed to do this, as people subscribe to the news list because they >> don't want the discussion. If there is any further discussion on this >> subject make sure that the address "[email protected]" does >> not appear in the address part of your email. The address part is the >> part that is headed by "to". >> >> And I don't think being "first rate" has anything to do with being >> able to see the value of something you don't like and wouldn't do and >> still being able to look critically at your own work. >> Kate Sullivan >> -----Original Message----- >> From: saul ostrow <[email protected]> >> To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]> >> Sent: Fri, Jun 8, 2012 3:50 pm >> Subject: Re: Scott Fitzgerald quote and "the definition of an artist" >> >> "The test of a first-rate artist is the ability to appreciate the work >> of >> another artist that is >> unlike their own while at the same time and still retain the ability to >> be >> critical of their own work. As such they >> should, for example, be able to see the genius in others and while being >> determined to question their own." >> >> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 3:17 PM, ARMANDO BAEZA <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Maybe one who stays in balanced between >>> the yin and the yang in creativity. >>> ab >>> >>> >>> ______________________________**__ >>> From: Tom McCormack <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >>> Sent: Friday, >>> June 8, 2012 11:09 AM >>> Subject: Scott Fitzgerald quote and "the definition of >>> an artist" >>> >>> My son Dan is a film director and screenwriter in Hollywood. He >>> puts the >>> following question to me. >>> >>> ". . .Do you know of any famous >>> modification of Fitzgerald's quote -- >>> "The test of a first-rate intelligence >>> is the ability to hold two opposed >>> ideas in mind at the same time and still >>> retain the ability to function"? >>> I have a vague recollection of somebody's >>> adjusting that quote to talk about >>> the definition of an artist. >>> Does this ring >>> any bell? If it was in some movie, I'll drop it." >>> >>> In typical father fashion, >>> I lumbered Dan with all sorts of reservations about >>> the FSF line (which, in >>> fact, Dan shared) but I admitted it did have a certain >>> fuzzy provocativeness >>> (much that's provocative in art depends on an element of >>> fuzziness). >>> >>> But I >>> had no recollection of the line's being altered to talk about the >>> definition >>> of an artist. Can any members help me (and Dan)? >>> >>> Tom McCormack >>> ASA >>> New York >>> City >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Saul Ostrow >> *Crtical Voices* >> 21STREETPROJECTS >> 162 West 21 Street >> NYC, NY 10011 >> >> > > > -- > Saul Ostrow > *Crtical Voices* > > 21STREETPROJECTS > 162 West 21 Street > NYC, NY 10011 > > > -- Saul Ostrow *Crtical Voices* 21STREETPROJECTS 162 West 21 Street NYC, NY 10011
