Frances to Joseph and listers... Allow me to jump into this discussion with perhaps a new starting point. The whole set of issues you raised in your question still frustrates my study. Your question may be based on inadequate or inappropriate or illogical bases. It begs for some explanations and definitions to clarify the many terms used. -Thing: as an objective existent entity or as a subjective mental construct? -Bad: as an umbrella, and as opposed to good or to ugly or wrong or false? -Aesthetic: as a nice property of all form, or as the content of an object? -Design: as a disposed intrinsic feature, or as an intended telic action? -Anymore: as an occurrence in the past and present, and even in the future? -That: as an only lofty works in fine art, or as any stuff in ordinary life?
Joseph Berg wrote on bad aesthetic design... Is there such a thing as that anymore?
