In a message dated 7/29/12 9:44:04 PM, [email protected] writes:

> Whether math is formerly a language is apparently disputed by
> linguists.
>
Consonant with my position that words use the user, I suspect that the
phrase   "Whether math is formerly a language" , in particular the word 'is',
inclines the user (speaker or hearer) to believe that what's at issue is the
"ontic status" of an entity titled 'math'. "IS math a language or ISN'T it?"
I claim that's wrong, and all that's at issue is what we should "call"
"mathematics". In fact, "language" is in a similar position. "Language" is not
an
entity, except, in a blurry way, notionally. Here's a controversial
position: You cannot "learn a language". The reason is not because Italian or
French or Russian is too multiplex, but because there is no determinate,
discrete, stable and mind-independent entity that "is" what we call Italian or
French or Russian.

Don't misconstrue that. You may say, "I learned French during my five years
in Paris," and your assertion will be serviceably clear to any   audience
in the kitchen. And if Ralph came up with an obscure now-obsolete word in an
old French dictionary, and you didn't "know" the word, we in the kitchen
would all scoff at Ralph if he maintained he'd just proved you haven't learned
French. But if (unwisely) we all moved from the kitchen to the university
philosophy seminar room, Ralph's case would be irrefutable. Contested, but not
refuted.   One of the many assumptions lurking underneath the contest would
be that 'French' "refers to" something.   But words don't "refer". That
assertion, however, belongs in another thread.

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