I agree with Chris' comment below.  I have the tape, too, but haven't looked at 
it yet.  The book stays on the sober side of the screed line.

Trouble is, only a certain kind of contemporary art is highly favored and gets 
the museum attention. It gets its spot in art history and thus drives the 
narrative. 

See today'sNYT for obit of Karl Benjamin. Note how his work was excluded from 
NY 
concept of art. See his work on www.geoform.net

Damn, I wish I could fix this text problem.  Michael?
WC



----- Original Message ----
From: caldwell-brobeck <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, August 4, 2012 5:25:39 AM
Subject: Re: Academic postmodern kitsch

I had not heard of Munson, so I looked her up - this video from CSPAN seems
to cover a good deal of her material (it's of a talk and Q&A given by her
and Hilton Kramer at the Washington Press Club):

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/159740-1

Now personally I will say there's lots of art I don't like, don't
understand, find personally repellant, etc. (especially as I am somewhat
politically conservative), but I do get awfully tired of those nominally on
my side using scary buzzwords - :Marxism! Postmodernism! Deconstruction!
Moral Relativism! Loss of Skills! - to try and establish that we are always
teetering on the brink of destruction, and Somebody Should Do Something
Right Now! As far as I can see they just want power in their court rather
than someone else's. Over the long run the art market seems pretty
darwinian - most of what they object to in art will be forgotten, just as
most Salon art has been, and I'm content with that.

Cheers;
Chris






On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 12:40 AM, William Conger <[email protected]>wrote:

> I thank Michael and others for helpful advice on not writing free verse.
>  I am a
> technological Luddite and can't focus
> on the computer tasks that might help me write simple lines of text.  It's
> just
> painting, reading, writing and thinking that
> keeps me distracted from everyday stuff.  Today I had lunch with James
> Valerio
> (see Forum Gallery), a friend of
> 45 years.  We have very different political views.  I'm way too liberal
> for him.
> Yet we are not so far apart on
> issues about art as we are on politics. We both lament the brutish
> character of
> so much 'postmodern' art thinking
> and how it has all but taken over the academy and the art world itself.  I
> suppose that's because we're both
> painters and, as everyone knows by now, painting is dead and gone in the
> world
> of serious, fashionable art: the art
> of contemporary museums, major art fairs, hot critics, dealers, and
> collectors.
>  James gave me a book to read.
> Now, I'm usually plenty up to date on books about the art world but this
> is one
> I missed.  It's titled Exhibitionism.
> Authored by Lynne Munson, published 2000.  I recommend it but it has
> flaws.  it
> does have fascinating, and damming
> information about the NEA.  Many of your suspicions about current art will
> be
> confirmed.  The near impossibility
> of carrying on a good discussion of aesthetics in a postmodern context
> where all
> meanings have been cut loose is conformed.
>
> I wonder how this post will look when you read it.  On my screen, it's a
> perfect
> rectangle of text.
> wc

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