Hear,hear.
Kate Sullivan

-----Original Message-----
From: saul ostrow <[email protected]>
To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Oct 13, 2012 5:43 pm
Subject: Re: Papers: "Aesthetic Autonomy Reconsidered" by Bret Schneider

But might we not address the issues raised without having to actually
address Schneider's arguments (muddled as they are) - This refusal to
deal
with issues outside of the instrumentality of one's own subjectivity
rather
than for the sake of the collective is the type of privatization of
public
space that I indicated to William has come to be endemic of this
listserv. I
sent this text along because the question of the autonomy (independent
nature) of aesthetic experience seems to underlie many of this
listserv's
members value systems, expectations and beliefs.


On 10/13/12 5:22 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

In a message dated 10/13/12 3:23:13 PM, [email protected] writes:


Are you sure you read this carefully enough,before shooting it down
as
not expressed with sufficient clarity for discussion?

Yes, say I, I'm sure.   I gave only Exhibit One. But I could easily
fill
two pages detailing lots of additional evidence for feeling Schneider
is not
equipped to clearly discuss the numerous terms he uses.

I plead regretfully guilty to seeming abrupt and dismissive, but the
repelling truth is, I've learned how bootless it is to try to convey
to
someone
unequipped that he is unequipped. (I'll preemptively try to fend off
an
obvious reponse by saying I'm aware of dozens of other topics in
which I
myself
would be woefully unequipped.)

It is always
possible to improve on any phrasing but sometimes the
problem,clumsily
stated as it may be, is more interesting than straightening out the
prose.

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