On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 1:54 PM, William Conger <[email protected]>wrote:

> Whenever something is named art it is assigned a value that is presumed to
> exemplify something essentially human in imagination or reflective thought.
>  Although objects can have many purposes in addition to being so-called
> artworks, the one constant function for artworks  is to evoke feelings that
> can't be measured or fully shared by other means. So we say.
>
> When the doctor asks you to rate your pain from 1 to 10 with 10 signifying
> acute, excruciating pain, you are being asked to do the impossible.  How
> does
> one rank pain?  Is a number two pain eight parts pleasure?  If pain is
> truly
> excruciating, a ten,  no sensible response can be made, except perhaps a
> screech
> or grunt or some foaming of the mouth or even unconsciousness.  But  some
> pain
> can be terrible but not yet incapacitating.  Then there is the mental
> pain, so
> bad that it can drive one to suicide, insanity,  or rage or murder. Is
> that a
> 10?  How can one rate an aesthetic response?  Is there a number 10
> response?  Is
> that ecstasy?  What about, say, a  number 3 aesthetic response?  Or what
> about
> the zero response when it's all intellectual as in some conceptual art (for
> those erring buffs who claim to separate feeling from reasoning)?  How
> does one
> price a feeling ...pain or pleasure, fear or affection?  How does one
> express a
> number nine pleasure without accounting for the one part pain?
>  Quantification
> of art, like any feeling, is impossible.  But because it's impossible we
> need,
> must, find some way to quantify it anyway because that's the only means we
> have
> to convey its importance.  Name anything that inherently defies being
> priced and
> it will be priced anyway.  That's how we know the ineffable exists,
> somehow.  If
> we don't price the ineffable then we can't say it exists and we become
> nihilists. What's the pain/pleasure  number of nihilism?  If I shrug when
> the
> doctor asks me to rank my pain, is a 5 recorded or O? is a 0 pain the same
> as 10
> pleasure?  This nonsense helps to show that the aesthetic response or
> experience
> or feeling is oceanic or unconfined or inseparable from any other
> responses but
> claiming some irrational status for it is all we can do to insist it is
> experienced, and thusly, that we exist.
>


But isn't that like saying that if something cannot be quanitified, then it
has no value and therefore doesn't exist.?

What about the subjective?

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