"Aesthetic experiences" as i originally understood it, was that any thing
under the umbrella
between the two extremes of taste ,likes and dislikes.
good-bad,ugly-beauty,etc could
be an "aesthetic experience".
To me,that means that any sudden feeling of any kind from nature or man made
art could
be an aesthetic feeling.
The problem I see is that some people get a pleasant surprise feeling, while
others
 may feel the opposite from the same  experience. Yet both are really
"aesthetic
 experiences",.
ab






On Dec 8, 2013, at 11:29 AM, [email protected] wrote:

> A position like mine -- shared, I realize, by many others including William
> -- is that there is no mind-independent ontic status "art" such that a
> given object or act either "IS" art or it's not, regardless of what any of
us
> think/feel. Still, any one of us is allowed to try to frame a description of
> when we personally are willing to bestow the honorific label 'ART'. The
> description is very likely to be fuzzy, but, minimally, serviceable. E.g.,
"I
> call 'art' any object or event that gives me personally an aesthetic
> experience."
>
> What constitutes an 'aesthetic experience' is subject to much discussion
> (which I'd be pleased to see the forum embark on). And the description as
> given is too short, leaving many questions. ("What? You'd call
non-man-things
> like a sunset or a piece of driftwood 'art'??!!) Note that this is a
> stipulation about word use, not about ontic status. I'm not saying "If a
work
> occasions in me an a.e. it IS art." I'm saying only, "If a work occasions in
me an
> a.e. I CALL it art." The stipulation has the narrow use of helping a reader
> realize what's on my mind when I say 'art'.
>
> I still ultimately cling to the feeling that the most intriguing question
> is WHY do some things occasion a.e.'s in me. The second most is, Given the
> disparity among genres -- music, arthitecture, dance, poetry, drama etc --
are
> the feelings I get from each such that I can defend calling them all
> 'aesthetic experiences'?

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