I would think that Aesthetic experiences of likes and dislikes start from birth and all though life of exposure of ideas that alter and changes ones position of tastes on the aesthetic wide choices likes an dislikes. The sound of violins was an excruciating painful noise as a child, but as I grew, it became more and more pleasant. Now i let my total recollection of tastes and whatever i like tomorrow be my guide in every thing i create. At present I'm doing a female sculpture Called "A melody of forms"which give me one aesthetic experience after another as i relate an alter the forms to my taste. Makes for a life that i wish for every one to experience. ab
On Dec 9, 2013, at 6:25 AM, William Conger wrote: > Regarding aesthetic experience and efforts to define what it consists of, I > suggest starting with when those experiences are said to begin. Do children, > infants have aesthetic experiences and if so what are they, or what are their > characteristics? What seems important is that at some point people learn from > others what they ought to regard as an aesthetic feeling or thought, etc. Or > they pick it up by implication through cultural images, slogans, songs, etc. > I don't want to imply that all adult aesthetic experiences are learned, like > words, but that some are learned and the rest are extensons, or metaphorical > add-ons. One way to proeed is to ask what does one think of or what is one > reminded of during the so-called aesthetic sensation. Those associations may > be crucial, leading back to infancy, basic sensations. > wc > ________________________________ > From: armando baeza <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: armando baeza <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2013 11:03 PM > Subject: Re: comment invited > "Aesthetic experiences" as i originally understood it, was that any thing > under the umbrella > between the two extremes of taste ,likes and dislikes. > good-bad,ugly-beauty,etc could > be an "aesthetic experience". > To me,that means > that any sudden feeling of any kind from nature or man made > art could > be an > aesthetic feeling. > The problem I see is that some people get a pleasant > surprise feeling, while > others > may feel the opposite from the same > experience. Yet both are really > "aesthetic > experiences",. > ab > > > > > > > On Dec 8, > 2013, at 11:29 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >> A position like mine -- shared, > I realize, by many others including William >> -- is that there is no > mind-independent ontic status "art" such that a >> given object or act either > "IS" art or it's not, regardless of what any of > us >> think/feel. Still, any > one of us is allowed to try to frame a description of >> when we personally are > willing to bestow the honorific label 'ART'. The >> description is very likely > to be fuzzy, but, minimally, serviceable. E.g., > "I >> call 'art' any object or > event that gives me personally an aesthetic >> experience." >> >> What > constitutes an 'aesthetic experience' is subject to much discussion >> (which > I'd be pleased to see the forum embark on). And the description as >> given is > too short, leaving many questions. ("What? You'd call > non-man-things >> like a > sunset or a piece of driftwood 'art'??!!) Note that this is a >> stipulation > about word use, not about ontic status. I'm not saying "If a > work >> occasions > in me an a.e. it IS art." I'm saying only, "If a work occasions in > me an >> > a.e. I CALL it art." The stipulation has the narrow use of helping a reader >> > realize what's on my mind when I say 'art'. >> >> I still ultimately cling to > the feeling that the most intriguing question >> is WHY do some things occasion > a.e.'s in me. The second most is, Given the >> disparity among genres -- music, > arthitecture, dance, poetry, drama etc -- > are >> the feelings I get from each > such that I can defend calling them all >> 'aesthetic experiences'?
