Saul wrote:

>
> A.E.s need not be associated with ones taste - for it is judgement -
> reflection that leads to evaluation and preference
>
In response, Kate queried:


> Then can we safely claim that an aesthetic experience takes place
> before judgement?
>
My guess is Saul is saying just the opposite. His line suggests to me he
feels an a.e. is the result of reflection and evaluation.

To try to keep this clear: I use 'a.e.' to indicate the ecstatic
reaction-feeling that swarms over me when I'm contemplating   certain works.
This
feeling is preceded by only the sound or vision. the feeling certainly may
thereafter be succeeded by reflection, ratiocination, analysis (I mean all
three
of those to be the same sort of cerebral mulling). Unfortunately, 'a.e.'
arose as short for "aesthetic experience", but I now see many listers would,
when they say 'experience', have in mind more than just the ecstasy. They'd
include the preceding-to-simultaneous sound or vision. Some might even include
the discussion thereafter. "Last night was a great experience!"

The aural or visual input always starts before the ectasy begins, but they c
an certainly be effectively simultaneous thereafter. When Susan Boyle hit
her stride with those long notes in "I had a dream", when Pavarotti held his
"Vincero!", when the last few minutes of Beethoven's Ninth catch us up, the
sound and the ecstasy are persistent together through time. It is that
ecstasy that I have in mind when I talk of my "reaction". I save the word
'response' for not the reaction, but the audience EXPRESSION of their reaction
--
the applause, the croons of approval.

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