What kind of magnitude are we talking here?
Does the guy need $100 or $1000 or $10000 or ?

I spent all my available dough plus some at Richie Brothers this week. Can always squeeze out a few shekels.

But if the guy needs $10K or more, a $20 donation is pretty pointless.

-----Original Message----- From: Butch Evans
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 8:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP in need

Thank you, Colin.

On Fri, 2018-07-13 at 23:43 -0500, Colin Stanners wrote:
Good point Adam.

The big difference between a stranger on the street (usually a scam)
and this request is Butch's name on it, and the community that has
built up around the AFMUG mailinglist (and related WISPA etc). While
I don't recall having worked directly with Butch, I've seen and heard
enough good things about him from other WISPs over the years to put
trust into his name, and I don't recall seeing him send other
requests like this, which means that it is important.

WISPs generally have low profit margins (much of the WISP business
consists of "we find creative ways to serve areas that aren't
profitable enough for big companies to bother to cover") and most of
us aren't rich or doing carefree / relaxed work, but there's a
difference between that "tiring but normal" WISP life and someone who
is on the verge of losing one or more of their business / house /
sanity. So I am sending some money.

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 4:55 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I know there were a lot of snarky comments so I thought it worth a
> rational one.  The root of the problem with this cry for help is
> that nobody's going to donate if they don't know what it's for.
>
> It's like when a stranger asks you for money on the street; is he
> really looking for food or a bottle of whiskey?  I tend to assume
> whiskey.
>
> Did this guy suffer a natural disaster, or does he suffer from
> having a weak business model and being uncompetitive?  I can
> understand wanting to stay private, but I doubt he's getting much
> help based on this request.  I also appreciate that you wouldn't
> help this person if you felt he didn't deserve help, but that
> doesn't do anything to assuage the fears of people on a mailing
> list who are all strangers.  With nothing else to go on we'll have
> to fall back on assumptions, and they'll be the same assumptions
> anybody makes about the guy bumming for money on the street.
>
> -Adam
>
>
> On 7/13/2018 12:34 PM, Butch Evans wrote:
> > I have been made aware of a WISP that has some financial needs. I
> > have
> > been asked to keep his name private. If you are willing to help -
> > ANYTHING helps - send paypal to [email protected] and in the
> > notes
> > comment "WISP Helper" (or similar). I will see that he gets 100%
> > of
> > what you send. Paypal costs me 3% or so, but I will cover that
> > part,
> > too. Thank you!
> >
> >
>
>
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