Not sure how to answer that.  His wisp is about break even right now,
but he lost his other job, which was paying his bills (result of the
injury).  I really can't go into any further detail.  I am certain he'd
appreciate any help anyone offers.  His WISP is growing and he will be
able to continue that, maybe.  

On Sat, 2018-07-14 at 10:23 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
> What kind of magnitude are we talking here?
> Does the guy need $100 or $1000 or $10000 or ?
> 
> I spent all my available dough plus some at Richie Brothers this
> week.  Can 
> always squeeze out a few shekels.
> 
> But if the guy needs $10K or more, a $20 donation is pretty
> pointless.
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Butch Evans
> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 8:51 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP in need
> 
> Thank you, Colin.
> 
> On Fri, 2018-07-13 at 23:43 -0500, Colin Stanners wrote:
> > Good point Adam.
> > 
> > The big difference between a stranger on the street (usually a
> > scam)
> > and this request is Butch's name on it, and the community that has
> > built up around the AFMUG mailinglist (and related WISPA etc).
> > While
> > I don't recall having worked directly with Butch, I've seen and
> > heard
> > enough good things about him from other WISPs over the years to put
> > trust into his name, and I don't recall seeing him send other
> > requests like this, which means that it is important.
> > 
> > WISPs generally have low profit margins (much of the WISP business
> > consists of "we find creative ways to serve areas that aren't
> > profitable enough for big companies to bother to cover") and most
> > of
> > us aren't rich or doing carefree / relaxed work, but there's a
> > difference between that "tiring but normal" WISP life and someone
> > who
> > is on the verge of losing one or more of their business / house /
> > sanity. So I am sending some money.
> > 
> > On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 4:55 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > I know there were a lot of snarky comments so I thought it worth
> > > a
> > > rational one.  The root of the problem with this cry for help is
> > > that nobody's going to donate if they don't know what it's for.
> > > 
> > > It's like when a stranger asks you for money on the street; is he
> > > really looking for food or a bottle of whiskey?  I tend to assume
> > > whiskey.
> > > 
> > > Did this guy suffer a natural disaster, or does he suffer from
> > > having a weak business model and being uncompetitive?  I can
> > > understand wanting to stay private, but I doubt he's getting much
> > > help based on this request.  I also appreciate that you wouldn't
> > > help this person if you felt he didn't deserve help, but that
> > > doesn't do anything to assuage the fears of people on a mailing
> > > list who are all strangers.  With nothing else to go on we'll
> > > have
> > > to fall back on assumptions, and they'll be the same assumptions
> > > anybody makes about the guy bumming for money on the street.
> > > 
> > > -Adam
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 7/13/2018 12:34 PM, Butch Evans wrote:
> > > > I have been made aware of a WISP that has some financial needs.
> > > > I
> > > > have
> > > > been asked to keep his name private. If you are willing to help
> > > > -
> > > > ANYTHING helps - send paypal to [email protected] and in
> > > > the
> > > > notes
> > > > comment "WISP Helper" (or similar). I will see that he gets
> > > > 100%
> > > > of
> > > > what you send. Paypal costs me 3% or so, but I will cover that
> > > > part,
> > > > too. Thank you!
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> 
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> 702-537-0979
> http://store.wispgear.net/
> http://www.butchevans.com/
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