+1 for sho!

On 07/27/2018 01:40 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
I should never be allowed to use that machine.  I'm a juvenile and I would brand all of mine as "Adam's badass SFP model XXX"


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From: "Mark Radabaugh" <m...@amplex.net>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Sent: 7/27/2018 2:37:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Fiber

FlexOptix will give you the programmer for the SFP’s if you buy a minimum lot of SFP's.   They have profiles for all of the major manufacturers that will tell the equipment it’s a branded SFP.    For the items they don’t have a profile for you just need one of the manufacturers coded ones to suck the configuration out and blow it back into a FlexOptix SFP.    Works great.  You can even have them modify a profile for a SFP if you need to lie to the equipment about what it is you installed - like a BIDI single mode pretending to be a standard multimode.

German company but they ship Fedex overnight at reasonable cost.

Mark



On Jul 27, 2018, at 2:18 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

That is the case with many if not most vendors that use SFPs.

Even back in the SONET days, Alcatel would not gracefully talk to Fujitsu. They would talk but there were all kinds of alarms on both ends.

-----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 11:36 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Fiber

And the random SFP I tried a few years ago actually worked perfectly
fine by the way.  The only difference was the Compact would toss alarms
about it on a regularly schedule.  So apparently you can use any SFP as
long as you're willing to ignore the alarms.

-Adam


On 7/27/2018 1:32 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
Hi Adam

Telrad show two transceivers for Compacts on their Zendesk site.    I think this one is Single mode.

Finisar FTLF1321P1xTL

I have asked FS.com if they have a compatible module.

Adam

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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Fiber



On 7/26/2018 5:56 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
On 7/26/18 2:50 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Save yourself the hassle and never use multimode for anything.


Multimode is always a mistake at some point in its lifetime.
Singlemode is forever.

Single mode is better in all cases.
The only reason for multimode was that the the transmitter for single mode is a laser and lasers were expensive. Multimode uses LED transmitters which were cheaper.  VCSEL Lasers turned that upside down and single mode is the cheaper one now.  The fiber itself costs about the same.

There are always exceptions.  Last I knew the only "approved" SFP for a Telrad Compact was a multimode one. The device will toss alarms if you put in any other SFP module. ....and I'll grant you that I last tried a 3rd party SFP about 2 years ago, so this could have changed, but it was definitely true in 2015 & 2016.  So all of our Compacts have a multimode fiber cable.  Cest La Vie.

It was also the case that SFPs with industrial temperature spec were cheaper in multimode.  I'm not sure if that's still true, but it was for awhile.


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