OK, but if you violate a software agreement, you should just simply stop using 
the code, right?
Does Cambium root the radio or is there still UBNT code running?  I have not 
followed this product at all.  

From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 1:46 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium


oh yes they are.  the agreement itself tells the user what they can and can't 
do.  the lawsuit is saying cambium violated that agreement by changing the 
code, etc, and even using / reusing some of the same code.  and replacing the 
copyright with cambium's copyright, lots of little things adding up.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mathew Howard 
  To: AFMUG 
  Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 2:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

  Unless the radio is old enough that it came with firmware that didn't have 
that feature... 


  But they're saying that Cambium is specifically instructing people to accept 
the agreement, and then violate the terms. They don't appear to be going after 
anyone so much for violating the agreement, but rather for telling other people 
to violate the agreement.

  On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 2:34 PM CBB - Jay Fuller <[email protected]> 
wrote:


    they're saying you have to accept the license agreement to access a radio 
to even change software.
    they are right - - unless you use tftp recovery.   you don't have to do 
that on a dell computer.

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Adam Moffett 
      To: [email protected] 
      Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 1:47 PM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

      Dell isn't harmed when you install Linux on your computer.
      Likewise I don't see how Ubiquiti is harmed when you install Elevate.

      Someone has to spell out the difference for me.



      On 8/10/2018 2:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:


        so - assuming they are held liable and have to pay damages

        how much do ya'll estimate they've made from elevate?

        now, don't get me wrong, i have a soft spot for both companies.  
they've both made me a lot of money.

        i hate to see them doing this - - but i fully see ubnt's point of view 
too.


          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Mathew Howard 
          To: AFMUG 
          Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 1:37 PM
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

          Cambium is not publicly traded... unless something has changed 
recently.


          On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 1:30 PM CBB - Jay Fuller 
<[email protected]> wrote:


            wasn't aware cambium was publically traded?

              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: [email protected] 
              To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
              Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 1:23 PM
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

              Or short Cambium.... you never know.  


              MoviePass is selling at 5.1 cents per share right now.  
              Or 20 milli cents in pre split dollars.   Millipennys?  Money is 
metric, right?

              In other words, I bought at 60 cents and it is now at 0.020 
cents...

              From: Tyson Burris 
              Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 12:19 PM
              To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

              Looks like its time to short the hell of UBNT stock.  I don’t see 
a lawsuit as a favorable to WISP opinions.  Dragging WISPs and Vendors into it 
is very sticky.

              Could end up being negative.



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              From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
              Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 12:34 PM
              To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium



              
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              From: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>
              To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
              Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 9:31:29 AM
              Subject: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

              https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/posts/1660546944070751



              Ubiquiti Networks, Inc.​ sues Cambium Networks​.



              
https://www.law360.com/articles/1071813/wireless-co-ubiquiti-says-rival-sells-hacking-firmware



              I'd like to see more of the claims.



              They've also sued Sakid Ahmed and Dmitry Moiseev of Cambium.

              They've sued WINNCOM TECHNOLOGIES, CORP.​.



              They've sued BLIP Networks​, a WISP in southern Illinois.





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