& much worse if they get an injunction that allows them to stop anybody
from using the software, whether or not they are part of the lawsuit..
Ponder that and cringe...
On 8/10/18 10:56 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
I would be concerned as well, and was concerned several years ago, which
is why I pressed the CEO so hard about it. I have been sued in something
similar as part of a big baseless pile of crap. I am not saying this is
baseless, what I am trying to get at is that once you are actually sued,
you have to spend a ton of time, energy, thought, and money to make it
go away. Those facts don't change change on the merits of the case. They
get worse if the case has merit, but it is still expensive to resolve no
matter how baseless.
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 12:42 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I don't care about vendor vs. vendor (though I think UBNT's claims
are baseless). My concern is them suing WISPs. I don't care who the
vendor is, you don't sue your customer for anything other than
non-payment.
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*From: *"Cassidy B. Larson" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*Sent: *Friday, August 10, 2018 12:39:01 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium
If the situations were reversed.. would you think Cambium would go
after Ubiquiti? Or would they just let it slide?
On Aug 10, 2018, at 11:00 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
THAT is the biggest part of the whole situation. Who is going to
trust Ubiquiti going forward?
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*From:*"Ben Royer" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*To:*"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*Sent:*Friday, August 10, 2018 11:57:52 AM
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium
I could be way wrong, but it seems to me in the court of public
opinion this will hurt UBNT worse. I mean, any WISP out there,
and Disti, using or selling Elevate, in my opinion would be
pretty upset UBNT is trying to accuse them as
‘co-conspirators’. This is a very, very slippery slope UBNT has
just tried to push everyone using Elevate down.
Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
*From:*Adam Moffett <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Friday, August 10, 2018 11:52 AM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium
So yeah they are talking about the extra Tx power. They're also
claiming copyright, DMCA, RICO, CFA, and software licenses
violations.
They also claim mail and wire fraud related to marketing the
hacked firmware.
In a nutshell, they refer to Blip and Winncomm as
"co-conspirators" because they helped promote and distribute
Elevate.
On 8/10/2018 12:13 PM, Doug Hass wrote:
For those of you who want to see it, the complaint from the
court case is attached.
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 11:10 AM Mathew Howard
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The thing I'm wondering about here, is what are they
suing the WISP for (yes, I'm too lazy to go find the
documents and read them)?
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 10:57 AM Lewis Bergman
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
My statement still stands.
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018, 10:10 AM Faisal Imtiaz
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Love the armchair discussion, with everyone
shooting from the hip, without actually reading
the article...
================
Ubiquiti sued Illinois-based Cambium on Tuesday,
claiming the company is selling firmware that
changes the existing firmware on Ubiquiti's
wireless equipment so it exceeds Ubiquiti's
transmission thresholds, making it no longer
compliant with the Federal Communications
Commission's rules.
=================
No they are not suing for IP !, they cannot !....
They are making an interesting case.....
I can also understand why they might be
compelled to make such a case ! ( makes a for a
very interesting liability responsibility ! )
Regards.
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