Submerse it in mineral oil and seal it in an old paint can.  

From: Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 5:55 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] POE powered PC for monitoring

I doubt your app would require a fan since you won't be pushing the processor 
that hard. 


On Mon, Aug 27, 2018, 5:55 PM Robert <[email protected]> wrote:

  Seems like a fan is defeating the whole purpose of a Pi board...

  On 8/27/18 12:38 PM, Joe Novak wrote:
  > I just saw this on slashdot: https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/poe-hat/
  > 
  > 
  > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 1:43 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
  > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
  > 
  >     Ok, that makes more sense.
  > 
  >     My initial assumption was that you were doing some automated
  >     management at the site, i.e. rebooting radios, etc via script
  >     control.   I'm trying to figure out what is interesting for people
  >     to control automatically so I can make sure those features make it
  >     into either the first or an early release.
  > 
  >     For what you're doing, I'd definitely start with the Pi.
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  >     On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 7:20 PM, David Coudron
  >     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
  >     wrote:
  > 
  >         That’s right.   We have this running in our NOC as a backup only
  >         if the local ones fail.  Our DIAs are geographically dispersed
  >         so the thought is we run these in the DIA and some other key
  >         towers for their local subnets only since we don’t backhaul our
  >         traffic from the different regions to the NOC, we dump it on the
  >         Internet close to the tower groupings.   If these monitors fail
  >         for some reason, we fire up the one in the NOC that is connected
  >         to those subnets through VPN.   We are looking for cheap and
  >         small foot print since we have a very feasible backup we can
  >         kick in easily. ____
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  >         *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] POE powered PC for monitoring ____
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  >         Probably what a lot of us would do. I kind of get the impression
  >         that he wants to run these things locally?____
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  >         bp____
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  >         On 8/25/2018 3:39 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:____
  > 
  >             Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it typical
  >             to run those functions in one or more servers in your noc?____
  > 
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  > 
  >             On Sat, Aug 25, 2018, 3:05 PM David Coudron
  >             <[email protected]
  >             <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:____
  > 
  >                 OK, sounds like we need to get our hands on a PI and
  >                 start messing with it.   Our monitoring is mostly going
  >                 to be IP based stuff.   We are implementing Sonar and
  >                 need it to run the Poller client.  So we will be ping
  >                 devices and doing SNMP pulls.   We may also have it do
  >                 some other scripted stuff, but haven’t really dug into
  >                 that much. ____
  > 
  >                 ____
  > 
  >                 Once we have a Linux device in these sites, I am sure
  >                 there is more that we could be doing with it than what
  >                 we monitor/control today.____
  > 
  >                 ____
  > 
  >                 Regards,____
  > 
  >                 ____
  > 
  >                 David Coudron____
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  > 
  >                 *From:* AF <[email protected]
  >                 <mailto:[email protected]>> *On Behalf Of *Forrest
  >                 Christian (List Account)
  >                 *Sent:* Saturday, August 25, 2018 3:04 PM
  >                 *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]
  >                 <mailto:[email protected]>>
  >                 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] POE powered PC for monitoring____
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  >                 ____
  > 
  >                 Raspberry pi should be robust enough, the only issue
  >                 would be sd card durability if you don't pick a good
  >                 quality card and take care to mount the drives with sd
  >                 friendly mount options.____
  > 
  >                 ____
  > 
  >                 To somewhat hijack the discussion, I'm interested in
  >                 what you plan to monitor on site.  The reason is that
  >                 I'm currently doing product definition work for our next
  >                 generation in caninet monitoring platform which is going
  >                 to include a lot of the functionality that would
  >                 normally be reserved for the noc.   Mainly want to know
  >                 what people are looking for in this type of solution.____
  > 
  >                 ____
  > 
  >                 On Sat, Aug 25, 2018, 8:10 AM David Coudron
  >                 <[email protected]
  >                 <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:____
  > 
  >                     We are considering adding a small Linux based
  >                     PC/device into our cabinets to run a variety of
  >                     monitoring services.   There are lots of small
  >                     computing options out there, but we haven’t stumbled
  >                     across a solution that seems to provide the fit we
  >                     are looking for.   Here is a list of desired
  >                     features:____
  > 
  >                      1. Support for Ubuntu 16.04 ____
  >                      2. POE powered, either 24 or 48 V will work ____
  >                      3. Small form factor, DIN Rail mounted would be
  >                         ideal ____
  >                      4. Cheap – We think there is reasonably priced
  >                         stuff out there, but haven’t found it yet.  
  >                         There are industrial versions of these things,
  >                         but we don’t need that reliability or durability
  >                         ____
  > 
  >                     ____
  > 
  >                     Some things that aren’t important to us:____
  > 
  >                      1. Durability – we have backup monitoring running
  >                         in our NOC so if we lose one of these we can run
  >                         indefinitely without it ____
  >                      2. High Performance – any moderate level platform
  >                         will do, it is just monitoring __ __
  >                      3. Gigabit Ethernet – 100 Mbit is fine ____
  >                      4. Bluetooth/Wifi or video support -  As long as we
  >                         can get Linux installed and log into it remotely
  >                         we are fine. ____
  > 
  >                     ____
  > 
  >                     We keep looking at the Raspberry PI platform, but
  >                     are not sure that either the
  >                     performance/compatibility under Ubuntu will be OK.  
  >                     Anyone have any luck with a moderately priced
  >                     solution for this kind of thing?____
  > 
  >                     ____
  > 
  >                     Regards,____
  > 
  >                     ____
  > 
  >                     David Coudron____
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