Which equipment are you using in the ham bands? Have you looked at the AREDN 
project? https://www.arednmesh.org/ They use mostly Ubiquiti gear with new 
firmware loads to move the radios to the ham licensed portions of the bands 
away from unlicensed. The rocket AP’s are one of the models that can load the 
firmware. Can you achieve what you want by using multiple antennas on a rocket 
AP? With the AREDN firmware the radios are cheap enough that you could do 
frequency diversity by having both 5 GHz and 3.5 GHz radios between the sites 
or if desired 2.4 GHz (in the licensed ham portion of the band below 
unlicensed) or even 900 MHz (of which ham are primary licensed over unlicensed 
users with a lot more power allowed). I am a fan of the AREDN stuff because of 
the clean spectrum available and that it doesn’t bother the WISP deployments. 
We have been using it for short haul temp stuff like remote video feeds on race 
courses for public safety events. It is a true mesh platform so if your sites 
are able to see more than one location from the tower and a particular link 
goes down, it will re-route traffic on its own.

 

 

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 11:53 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] 5.8Ghz / hackable 5.9Ghz (for hams) spatial diversity on the 
cheap?

 

In our province there is a wide-area analog voice ham repeater system that's 
really old-fashioned; some of the radio gear is older than I am. Some more 
progressive members are pushing to have IP backhaul at all sites. The 2.3Ghz / 
5.9Ghz donated-wifi-gear-hacked-to-ham-frequencies group of which I'm a main 
tech has started building a relatively impressive IP network in the Winnipeg 
area and so I've been asked to prepare suggestions for the 5.9Ghz IP backhaul 
upgrades.

 

The big cost difficulty is doing spatial diversity; there are many longer links 
that will definitely require it for reliability through the fade season. At my 
fulltime WISP job, if the budget is $10-15K/link I'll just put in a PTP670 with 
spatial diversity or 11Ghz radios with 4ft dishes and things are great. But 
being a nonprofit ham group, this entire project of a dozen+ links is hoped to 
be <$10K at most (with some donations) for hardware... That's a lot harder.

 

So I'm trying to find if there are any radios that are good at spatial 
diversity like the Orthogons, but cheap (prefer <$200/radio, $400 max?), and 
either support 5.9Ghz or are "hackable" to it (while supporting ham 
requirements e.g. callsign advertisement). Speed is not very important.

-PTP650/670 way out of price range, PTP450x, PTP550 too.

-AF5X did not do spatial diversity in my tests. 

-AF5XHD I have never tested for SD, even if it does work the radios are on the 
expensive side

-ePMP connectorized I like as a cost-effective platform, but it's not 
advertised for spatial diversity, and the firmware had some distance limits

-general Ubiquiti wi-fi I've never tested for spatial diversity but is worth a 
try

-Mimosa platform I've never touched but probably worth researching.

-Orthogon PTP400s I've used extensively, they are cheap now (used) and do 
spatial diversity great, but aren't hackable to 5.9Ghz. And as the hardware 
gets old, there will be failures.

 

Any other suggestions?

 

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