Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti UfiberIs this with UBNT? Calix electronics cost per customer on GPON is about $570 for the electronics. (both ends, pro-rata shares, cyber power, etc)
From: Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:38 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber Chuck, We do 1x32 so double these numbers. Basing this on our 7 slot chassis using the expensive 10G uplink cards. Fully loaded 1x32 splits for 1792 customers $32/customer loaded with 4 cards for 1024 customers $35/customer 1 card for 256 customers about $65/customers Not going to argue that AE is cheaper. I will yield to that claim. -- Best regards, Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com ------ Wednesday, August 29, 2018, 8:40:25 PM, you wrote: So, what is the cost per customer for a 16:1 PON system for the electronics? From: Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 2:34 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber Chuck, My 0.02 First of all we would have to determine what type of AE we are talking about. Are we talking a managed system like calix, zhone, etc with AE cards in them using their respective OLT's? Or, are we talking about the DIY stacking 48 port switches on top of each other and throwing some mikrotiks out there? Also, we need to talk about density? How many customers are we talking? AE is fine for smaller build outs, but doesn't scale well. The one big advantage of AE over GPON is distance. You can economically run 4x as far on AE as GPON. The best we can do on our GPON system is about 30km if we us a Class C+ laser. Using my test cage as an example. This is a 4U cage with 7 slots. If I use seven 8port cards, that gives me a maximum of 1792 customers in a 4U space. That is 1792 customers powered by one redundant power supply system. Also, that is 56 fiber cables running from the cage to the patch panel. If I do AE on the 4U cage using 7 AE cards, I can get 140 customers in the same space. About the same power requirements, but I'm using 140 fiber cables at this point. Now if I move the the DIY AE system maybe I can get 48 per 1U. That will give me 192 AE customers in a 4U space. But now I'm dealing with either 4 or 8 power plugs. Not to mention 192 individual fiber jumpers to keep track of. Now there once was an argument that with AE, one could guarantee 1G speeds at each port. I don't think that argument holds much water anymore. With GPON you can sell 1G download speeds at 16 to 1 ratio. 10G GPON is available now where you can down to 3 to 1 ration. I believe there is even a 40G GPON so to be available. AE's advantage is distance and it being AE. For example being it is AE you can interrupt fiber run with a wireless link if needed, can't do that with GPON. "If you have one strand going out there, you hang a switch and give all 30 homes active E". That is great, but now you have to have a cabinet that needs power and BBU. You are sharing a 1G , unless you you pop for a 10G laser. Under GPON, you just go out and pop in a 1x32 splitter and off you go. No cabinet or power needed. At the end of the day the individual has to look at the pro/cons of each system and figure out the right tool for the job. -- Best regards, Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com ------ Wednesday, August 29, 2018, 2:52:22 PM, you wrote: So, other than the obvious strand count advantages, why would you use this vs active ethernet? From: Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:04 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber It works fine. We have it in 2 subdivisions. It is brain dead simple to configure. Since it “Just Works” there isn’t a lot to configure. The ONU (cpe) can run in bridge or router mode. I’m not sure what the routing/NAT speeds are capable of but it will do 1G in bridge mode without breaking a sweat. Jim Bouse Owner - Brazos WiFi 979-985-5912 http://www.brazoswifi.com From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:17 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <Af@af.afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber Does anyone actually have this equipment in a production environment? I have a test setup, just haven't heard much discussion about it so I thought I'd check with the group. -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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