For me, troubleshooting a problem with a link is a huge advantage of AE.
You could just do a splitter at the cabinet with PON and get a lot of the
same advantages - then the only advantage PON has is power usage though.

On Wednesday, August 29, 2018, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> wrote:

> Not mentioned, but the other HUGE advantage of AE is that you're able to
> use a huge variety of equipment. The amount of stuff out there that you can
> do AE with vs GPON is like a 90:1 ratio. I have an AE setup using a
> datacenter-grade Arista 7148 capable of 1/10GbE to the customer and it was
> a very affordable switch to purchase.
>
> You can use all sorts of ex-datacenter equipment and things that were
> designed for corporate LAN aggregation and leaf/spline architecture,
> repurposed for AE residential. With GPON you have maybe ten realistic
> choices of equipment vendors.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:36 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Chuck,
>>
>> My 0.02
>>
>> First of all we would have to determine what type of AE we are talking
>> about.  Are we talking a managed system like calix, zhone, etc with AE
>> cards in them using their respective OLT's? Or, are we talking about the
>> DIY stacking 48 port switches on top of each other and throwing some
>> mikrotiks out there?
>>
>> Also, we need to talk about density?  How many customers are we talking?
>> AE is fine for smaller build outs, but doesn't scale well.  The one big
>> advantage of AE over GPON is distance.  You can economically run 4x as far
>> on AE as GPON.  The best we can do on our GPON system is about 30km if we
>> us a Class C+ laser.
>>
>> Using my test cage as an example.  This is a 4U cage with 7 slots.  If I
>> use seven 8port cards, that gives me a maximum of 1792 customers in a 4U
>> space. That is 1792 customers powered by one redundant power supply
>> system.  Also, that is 56 fiber cables running from the cage to the patch
>> panel.
>>
>> If I do AE on the 4U cage using 7 AE cards, I can get 140 customers in
>> the same space.  About the same power requirements, but I'm using 140 fiber
>> cables at this point.
>>
>> Now if I move the the DIY AE system maybe I can get 48 per 1U.  That will
>> give me 192 AE customers in a 4U space.  But now I'm dealing with either 4
>> or 8 power plugs.  Not to mention 192 individual fiber jumpers to keep
>> track of.
>>
>>
>> Now there once was an argument that with AE, one could guarantee 1G
>> speeds at each port.  I don't think that argument holds much water
>> anymore.  With GPON you can sell 1G download speeds at 16 to 1 ratio.  10G
>> GPON is available now where you can down to 3 to 1 ration.  I believe
>> there is even a 40G GPON so to be available.
>>
>> AE's advantage is distance and it being AE.  For example being it is AE
>> you can interrupt fiber run with a wireless link if needed, can't do that
>> with GPON.
>>
>>
>> "If you have one strand going out there, you hang a switch and give all
>> 30 homes active E".  That is great, but now you have to have a cabinet that
>> needs power and BBU.  You are sharing a 1G , unless you you pop for a 10G
>> laser.  Under GPON, you just go out and pop in a 1x32 splitter and off you
>> go. No cabinet or power needed.
>>
>>
>> At the end of the day the individual has to look at the pro/cons of each
>> system and figure out the right tool for the job.
>>
>>
>> *-- Best regards, Mark                            *mailto:[email protected]
>> <[email protected]>
>>
>>
>> *Myakka Technologies, Inc. *www.MyakkaTech.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *------ Wednesday, August 29, 2018, 2:52:22 PM, you wrote: *
>>
>> So, other than the obvious strand count advantages, why would you use
>> this vs active ethernet?
>>
>> *From: *
>> *Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] **Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:04 PM
>> *To: *
>> *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group **Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber
>>
>> It works fine.  We have it in 2 subdivisions.
>> It is brain dead simple to configure.
>> Since it “Just Works” there isn’t a lot to configure.  The ONU (cpe) can
>> run in bridge or router mode.  I’m not sure what the routing/NAT speeds are
>> capable of but it will do 1G in bridge mode without breaking a sweat.
>>
>> Jim Bouse
>> Owner - Brazos WiFi
>> 979-985-5912
>> http://www.brazoswifi.com
>>
>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:17 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber
>>
>> Does anyone actually have this equipment in a production environment?  I
>> have a test setup, just haven't heard much discussion about it so I thought
>> I'd check with the group.
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