They had to change it.

When it first came out I kept asking them WHAT I needed to filter.

No one in the department could answer that question so it was unenforceable.

Then they changed it so you have to tell the customer you are able to through 
some means or hand it off to a third party.

That got them around the need to define the actual rule set.

So all I need to do is tell the customer they can use any of a list of 
googleable content filtering programs/software.

Basically, a waste of government money and effort.

If someone is aware and wants to ask the ISP for filtering, they can search it 
themselves or query FB etc.



From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 8:29 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Parenting in the Digital world

Yeah, simple to comply.  Just give them a list of resources.

From: Jeremy
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 8:24 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Parenting in the Digital world

Found it...our saving grace:

"(b) A service provider may comply with Subsection (1)(a) by engaging a third 
party to
provide or referring a consumer to a third party that provides a commercially 
reasonable method of
filtering to block the receipt of material harmful to minors."

It appears that we have until December 30th to notify all customers that a 
filtering option is available, to (in this case) recommend a commercially 
reasonable method, and to (ii) provide the Division of Consumer Protection 
within the Department of Commerce a copy of the notice that was sent under 
Subsection (2)(b).

Yay.  Fun.  Fine is $15,000 a day for not complying.

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 8:17 PM Sean Heskett 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Oh geeze, that’s quite the law :-/
where’s a small government anti-regulation republican when you need one lol.



On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 7:53 PM Chuck McCown 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
https://le.utah.gov/~2018/bills/static/SB0134.html

From: Jeremy
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 7:25 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Parenting in the Digital world

Chuck, show me that Utah law please.

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 3:14 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Steve,

Have you looked at these guys https://routerlimits.com/

Met them at some of the wispa shows.

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Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.MyakkaTech.com<http://www.MyakkaTech.com>

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Thursday, September 13, 2018, 4:46:01 PM, you wrote:

Ive been looking for something to monitor the usage, Had an issue with one of 
the foster kids sneaking social media and sharing crank shots among other 
things right under my nose. problem is all the different devices and old 
devices floating around my house, nothing seems to be compatible across the 
board, An edge device isnt really feasible because consumer stuff just relies 
on dns, and much beyond that gets into certificate installations

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 3:14 PM <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Utah law requires the ISP to help.

From: Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 2:10 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Parenting in the Digital world

IMHO it's not the place of an ISP to get into this at all. You're a service 
provider. If they want to google "parent controls for internet" and then buy 
some commercial DNS-filtering service, or Windows 10 app or something, that's 
entirely between the customer and whatever third party they get set up with.

It's good to let them know that you provide a full unfiltered Internet feed and 
that it's their choice what they want to do with it, if they break something 
and require technical support, they need to go to their filtering vendor.



On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 7:08 AM 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi;

What are some of the tools or resources either as a WISP or parent does
one use to control / monitor children's access to content or devices?

Do you find a request from parents on whether you have a service to do
content filtering?  If so, what do you tend to do?   Or, do you just
block certain websites and content by default from being accessed.


Regards,


Lincoln

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