I read that they did a bunch of vacuum death experiments on animals.  It sounds cruel, but they needed to know what the injuries would be so they could determine how to treat them.

If you had a lung full of air and let it out in the vacuum you'll collapse your lungs. The most immediate problem is that your blood gets deoxygenated in about 10 seconds.  You'll fall unconscious in some number of seconds after that....it's not the same time for everyone, but it's not a long time.  Up to 30 seconds in a vacuum and you should have no lasting effects.  Up to 90 seconds is survivable.  For every second beyond that you're increasingly likely to be dead.

-Adam


On 10/18/2018 11:36 AM, [email protected] wrote:
I would like for Jackass to do a session inside the space simulator where they pop off their helmets in a vacuum. That actually happened to an astronaut/researcher.  He said it was not like scifi literature.  His eyes did not explode.  It was just an odd sensation.  He said his eyes and tongue felt like they were a bit carbonated.  He was in full vacuum for 15 seconds before they either vented the chamber or he fixed his space suit or he got out.  Don’t recall how they fixed the problem.  He had a bit of capillary brusing but no lasting effects.
Like to see how long Steve-O would last.
*From:* Dave
*Sent:* Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:34 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review
So, instead of "Talking Dead" we need a session of "Talking Space" :)


On 10/18/18 10:16 AM, [email protected] wrote:
I read a deconstruction of the movie.  They said that bracelet thing is about the only fabrication they injected.  The rest is mostly factual.
*From:* Cameron Crum
*Sent:* Thursday, October 18, 2018 8:44 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review
Wait...no gravity? There is gravity on the moon, just much smaller than on earth. If you throw something, providing you aren't the hulk, it will come down eventually. On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 8:29 PM CBB - Jay Fuller <[email protected]> wrote:

    I thought "BS" when he "threw" the bracelet.  There's no gravity
    - yet it appeared to "float" " down"

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        *From:* [email protected]
        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
        *Sent:* Saturday, October 13, 2018 10:11 AM
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review
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        I did enjoy the soundtrack.  But it was not as remarkable as
        many movies.
        They showed the first footprint, a couple of shots of them
        hopping around on the moon.
        It showed Neil throwing a bracelet that had belonged to his
        daughter into a deep crater.  I have never heard of that
        happening.  I think they may have invented that scene.  That
        was really the focus of the EVA activity on the lunar surface.
        Nice shot of the LM with the flag.
        And when they left there is a shot of the LM and the
        retroreflector.
        But it was brief.  No shots of them lugging stuff around,
        taking samples ( one I guess) or assembling and installing
        the flag.
        This whole anti patriotic thing is some cooked up fake
        controversy. Plenty of US flag waving by citizens of other
        countries when they were watching it on TV.  Flags on
        uniforms, USA on the side of the Saturn V etc etc.
        Of course the right loves to pick on the left at every
        opportunity (and vice versa) and Hollywood is probably 80% left.
        So someone strained at gnats to find something to become
        apoplectic over and it went viral.
        <lent>
        *From:* Ken Hohhof
        *Sent:* Saturday, October 13, 2018 8:23 AM
        *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

        What about the soundtrack?

        Ron Howard took some liberties with Apollo 13 but still
        everyone should watch it once a year.  If you don’t find it
        inspirational check to make sure you have a pulse.  Oh, and
        great soundtrack.

        Another docudrama that is not 100% historically accurate but
        everyone should watch is Thirteen Days.

        I would say anyone who thinks the Cold War was the best of
        times must not have lived through it, but how to explain
        Vladimir Putin?

        *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
        *Sent:* Friday, October 12, 2018 8:36 PM
        *To:* [email protected]
        *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

        First Man.

        Some spoilers here but I think everyone probably knows how
        the story ends.

        First impression was I did not like the style of
        photography.  Too many shaky closeups.

        One sure fire way to make me choke up, my nose burn and cause
        my eyes to leak is to expose me to formaldehyde.  For some
        reason and am super super duper hyper sensitive. Other wise I
        am pretty stoic.

        The other sure fire way to cause this reaction is if I am
        exposed to material covering Apollo 1, Challenger or
        Columbia. Odd emotional reaction every time.  I guess because
        I was so into all of the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo missions
        when they were happening.  I built models.  Listened to the
        moon landing on the radio.  Totally geeked out to all of this
        stuff back in the day.

        They did not do a very good job in communicating the horrible
        end to the lives of the Apollo 1 astronauts. Perhaps they did
        not want to traumatize the audience, but they made it seem
        like – boom – its all over.  The reality was much much more
        gruesome.

        They overdramatized the uncommanded roll spin up of Gemini
        8.  It was a big time emergency but the graphics had it
        spinning like a dryer on spin cycle.  I think max RPM was
        about 1 rev per second before Neil Armstrong finally isolated
        it to a reaction control rocket firing continually.  He
        killed the circuit breakers and was able to manually halt the
        roll. I have spun airplanes at this rate.  It is not going to
        cause you to pass out.  If he was not able to stop the
        increase in roll rate it would have done so, but they guy
        knew the spacecraft and he knew there were only so many
        things that could cause this.  He did some basic
        troubleshooting and saved the day.

        But the biggest thing that I disliked was them showing the
        inside of the space craft.  Panels, annunciators and switches
        that were dirty, worn and smudged.  Like some old bulldozer
        at a gravel pit instrument panel.  Almost as if they built
        the props from stuff they got out of an aircraft bone yard. 
        In reality, those things were brand spanking new and
        sparkling clean.  The photos exist...   Not sure why they
        chose the grunge.

        Even the headliner of the spacecraft and their ear muff
        thingies looked grungy and used.

        They also showed a Chicago connector on one of the hoses
        connected to the capsule. Pretty sure a generic jackhammer
        air connector was not used.

        They glossed over the 1202 alarm a bit too much. (The book
        Digital Apollo is a great read about this).  They were more
        concerned about that than the movie lets on.  They showed a
        scene where Neil flew over a super deep crater while running
        out of fuel.  That never happened, he was just picking out a
        spot between the boulders.

        So, if you care about fine detail accuracy, you may not enjoy
        this too much.

        It is not nearly as good as a PBS special by any stretch of
        the imagination.

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