Not sure why some consider it a cruel way to euthanize animals. Both hypoxia and CO poisoning are really just falling asleep and waking up dead. If I would going to get killed I would choose either of those as a fairly pleasant way to go.
From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 10:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review I read that they did a bunch of vacuum death experiments on animals. It sounds cruel, but they needed to know what the injuries would be so they could determine how to treat them. If you had a lung full of air and let it out in the vacuum you'll collapse your lungs. The most immediate problem is that your blood gets deoxygenated in about 10 seconds. You'll fall unconscious in some number of seconds after that....it's not the same time for everyone, but it's not a long time. Up to 30 seconds in a vacuum and you should have no lasting effects. Up to 90 seconds is survivable. For every second beyond that you're increasingly likely to be dead. -Adam On 10/18/2018 11:36 AM, [email protected] wrote: I would like for Jackass to do a session inside the space simulator where they pop off their helmets in a vacuum. That actually happened to an astronaut/researcher. He said it was not like scifi literature. His eyes did not explode. It was just an odd sensation. He said his eyes and tongue felt like they were a bit carbonated. He was in full vacuum for 15 seconds before they either vented the chamber or he fixed his space suit or he got out. Don’t recall how they fixed the problem. He had a bit of capillary brusing but no lasting effects. Like to see how long Steve-O would last. From: Dave Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review So, instead of "Talking Dead" we need a session of "Talking Space" :) On 10/18/18 10:16 AM, [email protected] wrote: I read a deconstruction of the movie. They said that bracelet thing is about the only fabrication they injected. The rest is mostly factual. From: Cameron Crum Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 8:44 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review Wait...no gravity? There is gravity on the moon, just much smaller than on earth. If you throw something, providing you aren't the hulk, it will come down eventually. On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 8:29 PM CBB - Jay Fuller <[email protected]> wrote: I thought "BS" when he "threw" the bracelet. There's no gravity - yet it appeared to "float" " down" ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review </lent> I did enjoy the soundtrack. But it was not as remarkable as many movies. They showed the first footprint, a couple of shots of them hopping around on the moon. It showed Neil throwing a bracelet that had belonged to his daughter into a deep crater. I have never heard of that happening. I think they may have invented that scene. That was really the focus of the EVA activity on the lunar surface. Nice shot of the LM with the flag. And when they left there is a shot of the LM and the retroreflector. But it was brief. No shots of them lugging stuff around, taking samples ( one I guess) or assembling and installing the flag. This whole anti patriotic thing is some cooked up fake controversy. Plenty of US flag waving by citizens of other countries when they were watching it on TV. Flags on uniforms, USA on the side of the Saturn V etc etc. Of course the right loves to pick on the left at every opportunity (and vice versa) and Hollywood is probably 80% left. So someone strained at gnats to find something to become apoplectic over and it went viral. <lent> From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 8:23 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review What about the soundtrack? Ron Howard took some liberties with Apollo 13 but still everyone should watch it once a year. If you don’t find it inspirational check to make sure you have a pulse. Oh, and great soundtrack. Another docudrama that is not 100% historically accurate but everyone should watch is Thirteen Days. I would say anyone who thinks the Cold War was the best of times must not have lived through it, but how to explain Vladimir Putin? From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 8:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review First Man. Some spoilers here but I think everyone probably knows how the story ends. First impression was I did not like the style of photography. Too many shaky closeups. One sure fire way to make me choke up, my nose burn and cause my eyes to leak is to expose me to formaldehyde. For some reason and am super super duper hyper sensitive. Other wise I am pretty stoic. The other sure fire way to cause this reaction is if I am exposed to material covering Apollo 1, Challenger or Columbia. Odd emotional reaction every time. I guess because I was so into all of the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo missions when they were happening. I built models. Listened to the moon landing on the radio. Totally geeked out to all of this stuff back in the day. They did not do a very good job in communicating the horrible end to the lives of the Apollo 1 astronauts. Perhaps they did not want to traumatize the audience, but they made it seem like – boom – its all over. The reality was much much more gruesome. They overdramatized the uncommanded roll spin up of Gemini 8. It was a big time emergency but the graphics had it spinning like a dryer on spin cycle. I think max RPM was about 1 rev per second before Neil Armstrong finally isolated it to a reaction control rocket firing continually. He killed the circuit breakers and was able to manually halt the roll. I have spun airplanes at this rate. It is not going to cause you to pass out. If he was not able to stop the increase in roll rate it would have done so, but they guy knew the spacecraft and he knew there were only so many things that could cause this. He did some basic troubleshooting and saved the day. But the biggest thing that I disliked was them showing the inside of the space craft. Panels, annunciators and switches that were dirty, worn and smudged. Like some old bulldozer at a gravel pit instrument panel. Almost as if they built the props from stuff they got out of an aircraft bone yard. In reality, those things were brand spanking new and sparkling clean. The photos exist... Not sure why they chose the grunge. Even the headliner of the spacecraft and their ear muff thingies looked grungy and used. They also showed a Chicago connector on one of the hoses connected to the capsule. Pretty sure a generic jackhammer air connector was not used. They glossed over the 1202 alarm a bit too much. (The book Digital Apollo is a great read about this). They were more concerned about that than the movie lets on. They showed a scene where Neil flew over a super deep crater while running out of fuel. That never happened, he was just picking out a spot between the boulders. So, if you care about fine detail accuracy, you may not enjoy this too much. 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