In my case none.  Easements or pole contact agreements are in place and they 
cover repair work.  

From: Kurt Fankhauser 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 10:10 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Melted fiber

When emergency repairs need to happen how much permission do you need to get 
form all the above entities you mentioned?

On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 11:22 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

  That's true.  Material cost for the repair was maybe $500.  But people were 
there splicing for several hours.  You also have to have a whole yard full of 
crap to be prepared for this.  The repair crew (a contractor) had three trucks 
and a reel trailer and of course all the special fiber tools in addition to 
regular hand tools.  The repair itself is not capital heavy, but having all the 
stuff to do the repair IS capital heavy.

  Honestly the worst thing about fiber is getting permission.  Army Corps of 
Engineers, State DOT, State Public Service Commission, County Highway, State 
DEC, Local Highway Dept, landowners, railroads, incumbent utilities.  Permits, 
easements, pole attachment licenses.  You need the official blessing from a 
zillion people.  I really think that's the hardest part.  When it's time to 
actually put up cable that just takes a couple of phone calls and a checkbook. 

  What I keep saying is that it doesn't matter how hard it is up front because 
you'll get paid for that fiber for a hundred years.  I can't say that about any 
piece of wireless equipment, except maybe the tower itself.

  -Adam



  On 11/21/2018 9:42 AM, Trey Scarborough wrote:

    Same thing happens with wireless when lightning strikes a tower, but in 
this case the fix is more a cost in time than money of broken equipment...

    We had a similar problem the other day lighting hit near a customer and 
melted the fiber in the duct through the shielding after it burned the ground 
wire out of the building it burned all the way out to the HH and melted a 
splice case as well. was lucky to find 6 strands out of a 144 that were still 
working.



    On 11/20/2018 3:24 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

      Things like this make me happy that I'm doing wireless and not fiber!

      On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 8:02 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

        Yep, I had the same thing happen.  Tree actually broke the primary.  
Primary fell onto the messenger.  Burned the lashing wire in two.  Cooked 
everything real good, but some of the fibers were still working.  

        From: Adam Moffett 
        Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 4:42 PM
        To: [email protected] 
        Subject: [AFMUG] Melted fiber

        Thought I'd share. Apparently a pine tree in the ROW grew into the 
primaries.  Either the tree caught fire or it was arcing on the comms, I'm not 
really sure.  I know it's blurry, but all the plastic is melted off.  All 
that's left is the central strength member, lashing wire, and bare fiber.  This 
is activeE, so separate strands for each house.  All of them were working.  We 
only found out about it when the Power co's tree trimmers removed the tree and 
one fiber customer went down. The person who took this picture touched the 
cable during inspection and 4 more went down.  Not sure what was holding them 
there, but apparently it's been in this condition for a number of weeks. Repair 
is underway.

         
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