NY DOT says we do, but they're the only ones.
They say to file a permit for repairs every year and give it a date range saying the work can take place over the whole year.

In fact NY DOT is the biggest pain in the ass about everything under the sun.  Railroads are the only thing worse than NY DOT.


On 11/21/2018 12:13 PM, [email protected] wrote:
In my case none.  Easements or pole contact agreements are in place and they cover repair work.
*From:* Kurt Fankhauser
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 21, 2018 10:10 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Melted fiber
When emergency repairs need to happen how much permission do you need to get form all the above entities you mentioned?
On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 11:22 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

    That's true. Material cost for the repair was maybe $500.  But
    people were there splicing for several hours.  You also have to
    have a whole yard full of crap to be prepared for this.  The
    repair crew (a contractor) had three trucks and a reel trailer and
    of course all the special fiber tools in addition to regular hand
    tools.  The repair itself is not capital heavy, but having all the
    stuff to do the repair IS capital heavy.

    Honestly the worst thing about fiber is getting /permission/. Army
    Corps of Engineers, State DOT, State Public Service Commission,
    County Highway, State DEC, Local Highway Dept, landowners,
    railroads, incumbent utilities.  Permits, easements, pole
    attachment licenses.  You need the official blessing from a
    zillion people.  I really think that's the hardest part.  When
    it's time to actually put up cable that just takes a couple of
    phone calls and a checkbook.

    What I keep saying is that it doesn't matter how hard it is up
    front because you'll get paid for that fiber for a hundred years. 
    I can't say that about any piece of wireless equipment, except
    maybe the tower itself.

    -Adam


    On 11/21/2018 9:42 AM, Trey Scarborough wrote:

    Same thing happens with wireless when lightning strikes a tower,
    but in this case the fix is more a cost in time than money of
    broken equipment...

    We had a similar problem the other day lighting hit near a
    customer and melted the fiber in the duct through the shielding
    after it burned the ground wire out of the building it burned all
    the way out to the HH and melted a splice case as well. was lucky
    to find 6 strands out of a 144 that were still working.

    On 11/20/2018 3:24 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
    Things like this make me happy that I'm doing wireless and not
    fiber!
    On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 8:02 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

        Yep, I had the same thing happen. Tree actually broke the
        primary. Primary fell onto the messenger. Burned the lashing
        wire in two. Cooked everything real good, but some of the
        fibers were still working.
        *From:* Adam Moffett
        *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2018 4:42 PM
        *To:* [email protected]
        *Subject:* [AFMUG] Melted fiber
        Thought I'd share. Apparently a pine tree in the ROW grew
        into the primaries.  Either the tree caught fire or it was
        arcing on the comms, I'm not really sure.  I know it's
        blurry, but all the plastic is melted off.  All that's left
        is the central strength member, lashing wire, and bare
        fiber.  This is activeE, so separate strands for each
        house.  All of them were working.  We only found out about
        it when the Power co's tree trimmers removed the tree and
        one fiber customer went down. The person who took this
        picture touched the cable during inspection and 4 more went
        down.  Not sure what was holding them there, but apparently
        it's been in this condition for a number of weeks. Repair is
        underway.

        Burnt Fiber
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