Radios all have power RF amps and all semiconductor power amps I have ever seen 
use the chassis ground as RF ground and use a positive Vcc type of 
semiconductor.  To DC isolate the RF grounds would be a huge PITA for RF 
designers.  But the old big iron microwave stuff like Alcatel and Harris was 
all –48.  Probably had DC-DC converters in its power supply.

Our whole semiconductor world has been build around positive rails.  I presume 
it dates back to NPN having some advantages over PNP or some such thing.  

Seems a bit odd as JFETs work well as vacuum tube replacements and they were 
almost all positive plate voltages.  Even back in the vacuum tube days, vendors 
would ground the plates so they could power the tubes with –48 volts.  

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 9:58 AM
To: AFMUG 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 48v Power Supply Switches

I think it would be more accurate to say a lot of the equipment WISPs use, 
rather than ISPs... I don't see too many radios that require -48 (a lot, or 
even most appear to be able to handle -48v though), but it seems like rack 
mount stuff does tend to need (or at least tolerate) -48.

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 9:41 AM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

  I guess my experience is the reverse.  Having spent 40 years in telecom, 
seems that almost everything rack mounted is –48 if you want DC power.  I don’t 
recall ever finding +48 rack mounted telecom equipment.  

  From: Ken Hohhof 
  Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 7:43 AM
  To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 48v Power Supply Switches

  I have one site with an Eltek/Valere system and it does its job quite nicely, 
my question for you:  how do you deal with the Eltek Systems mostly being 
designed for -48 yet a lot of the equipment ISPs use wants +48?  My one Eltek 
site has an old Purewave WiMax basestation that I am about to decommission but 
I will need +48 and I don’t want to put in a DC-DC converter if nothing will be 
running off the -48.



  From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
  Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:13 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 48v Power Supply Switches



  +1

  Sent from my iPhone


  On Nov 24, 2018, at 3:13 AM, Gino A. Villarini <[email protected]> wrote:

    We go direct to Eltek/valere -48 system.  It has redundant rectifiers, 
web/snmp and LVD



    Gino Villarini 
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    From: AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Alex Davidson 
<[email protected]>
    Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
    Date: Friday, November 23, 2018 at 11:13 AM
    To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
    Subject: [AFMUG] 48v Power Supply Switches



    Hey guys, we are stepping up to some 48v equipment on a tower and in 
looking into power supply switches. This seemed to be something that would work 
for us (Mean Well SE-1000-48). Any thoughts or pros and cons that yall have 
found with this unit. Any units of similarity that might work well in place of 
this one. Thanks







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