What was it before?  ePTP?

On 12/10/2018 9:30 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

Wanted to follow up on this one as well. Changing to TDD PTP appears to have done the trick its been up for 5 days now with no issues.

Thanks for all the idea’s everyone.

Brandon

*From:*AF [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz
*Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2018 7:26 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.

Steve,

I don’t think I said. Sorry about that. Its 2.4 on 20mhz channel.

Upgrading to 3.5.2 did not work. However, changed it to TDD PTP and its going on 20 hours stable so far.

As with most things time will tell.

Thanks everyone.

Brandon

*From:*AF [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2018 5:17 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.

I may mave missed it, but what freq/channel are you on at what size?

On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 1:16 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    My eptp link was 2.4.3 with the issue for sure

    I had a ptmp AP (flexible) 2.5.1 that had an issue where no one
    could associate until I rebooted

    I would think in 2.6.x it was resolved.  I haven't seen any issues
    myself since 2.6.x.

    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340
    Direct: 937-552-2343
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373

    On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 5:09 PM Brandon Yuchasz
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Josh,

        Was the bug in 2.6.1.x?  I will certainly upgrade but just
        wondering how long this has been around.

        Thanks everyone.

        *From:*AF [mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
        *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2018 9:11 AM
        *To:* AFMUG
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.

        There was a bug that caused it to hang way back in the day
        (when the Force 200 and eptp came out). They patched my link
        and it quit dying entirely, but I think it was some quick reset.

        There's a known bug in 3.5.1 that's semi-resolved in 3.5.2
        relating to this, but it is not 100% fixed from what I'm
        told.  Upgrade to 3.5.2 and when there's a new release you'll
        want to upgrade when you can.

        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340
        Direct: 937-552-2343
        1100 Wayne St
        Suite 1337
        Troy, OH 45373

        On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 11:58 PM Mathew Howard
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            I've seen that happen before, but I can't remember what we
            did to fix it... I think we may have had to replace the
            radio. I can't remember if it was a PTP or PTMP situation,
            either... it was a while ago.

            It might be worth switching it to TDD PTP mode instead,
            and see if that helps.

            On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:14 PM Brandon Yuchasz
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
            wrote:

                Yes de-registering the link does make the link start
                passing traffic again although it seems a lot shorter
                lived so far. Only lasted an hour.

                *From:*AF [mailto:[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of
                *Brandon Yuchasz
                *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2018 7:56 PM
                *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.

                I don’t know. I will report back after trying it.

                Thanks for the idea.

                *From:*AF [mailto:[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of
                *Mathew Howard
                *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2018 4:02 PM
                *To:* AFMUG
                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.

                Does it start working again if you just de-register
                the link, instead of rebooting the radio(s)?

                On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 9:33 AM Brandon Yuchasz
                <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    Dave,

                    I have not seems like such a strange issue I
                    didn’t have much faith in tech support. My
                    experience is the list seems to have better info
                    on these odd issues. One side of this link
                    requires snow shoes to get to so I am trying to
                    avoid replacement if at all possible.

                    Thanks,

                    Brandon

                    *From:*AF [mailto:[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Dave
                    *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2018 8:01 AM
                    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.

                    Have you placed a support request to cambium yet?
                    https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/

                    On 12/3/18 7:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

                        Looking to see if anyone has experienced a
                        similar issue to this:

                        We have a force 200 backhaul on a small
                        bridged network.

                        Several times a day now it stops passing most
                        traffic. It can be humming along at 25mbps
                        down and 5mbps upload and then drop down to
                        2mbps download and less than 1mbps upload.

                        Downlink RSSI -65 dBm

                        Downlink SRN 30 dB

                        Uplink MCS MCS 14

                        Downlink MCS MCS15

                        All remains constant during this time.

                        The ping falls apart during this time between
                        the AP and the SM although pings through the
                        network to the SM or through the network from
                        the AM are both fine it’s just between them
                        that starts to drop packets.

                        The units show heavy retransmission packets
                        from the moment the link is brought online
                        around 40% at times.

                        At this point I would assume noise is the issue.

                        *_But here is the odd part I would like some
                        help with_*. Rebooting the link fixes the
                        issue but leaving the link alone does not. It
                        will stay “broken” until one or both sides of
                        the link are rebooted. Then it works perfectly
                        for a time and falls apart again.

                        Current firmware is 3.5.1 but we have run it
                        on 2.6.1.1 and 3.3 with similar results.

                        Any thoughts on how to troubleshot this one
                        would be awesome.

                        Best Regards.

                        Brandon Yuchasz

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