If I have a large diesel out in the back lot on a day when the temps are 
hitting 0 degrees, I need all the cranking I can get.  Alternators frequently 
go up to 16 volts.  I will have some cable voltage drop.  And you do want to 
spin the motor faster than normal when cold cranking a cranky diesel.  
Especially if you have run some thing out of fuel on a job site.  I have had to 
crank a backhoe a half hour to get it to go, and that is after cracking open 
all the injector lines.  

I remember back on the farm, our old 6 volt John Deere wheel tractor got much 
more well behaved when we put an 8 volt battery in it and adjusted the 
generator to charge at 9 volts.   

Say you want to deliver 300 amps to a bulldozer
0 gauge wire has 10 milli ohm for 100 loop feet.  
Times 300 amps leaves us with 3 volt drop.  
So my 18 volt battery pack is now 15 volts.  Should spin the engine nicely.  

I will probably do 16 volts.  Like to know how much voltage those booster 
starters put out.  The only way they can give you more amps is to give you more 
volts.  I’ll bet they hit 16 if not 18 volts when in the boost position.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 11:00 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT tool chests

Why the extra voltage?  Compensate for resistance of long cable?  Might be 
safer to just spend more money for heavier gauge wire.

 

Having once exploded a battery I was jumping on a zero degree day, I am 
cautious about creating sparks around hydrogen.  Getting sprayed with sulfuric 
acid is not fun.  I guess if you follow the last connection to  the chassis 
rule you are OK.  But the idea of using an 18 volt battery would scare me.  And 
is it really necessary?

 

If there’s AC available, I like the approach of hooking up a battery charger.  
Let it charge for 10 minutes on highest current setting and most cars will 
start even with a weak battery.  But you are looking for a portable system.  
Most of my portable generators have a 12V DC output that they say you can use 
for starting cars or charging batteries.  I haven’t tried it.  Need the special 
cable.

 

 

From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 10:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT tool chests

 

If there are any electronics in the vehicle, I would worry about it.

 

bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 12/31/2018 8:42 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  Yep, red for electrical. Black for mechanical. Like to have one for plumbing 
and pneumatic I think.  I have several Kennedy’s for machine shop.  On a 
different subject, finally got a newish forklift battery. Old one had a bad 
cell that I had jumpered. Problem was you couldn’t leave it on the charger 
without risking overcharge. Also the forklift thought it was always low on 
charge and would shutdown prematurely.  Gonna build a boss man jumper battery 
system. Put it in the back of the service truck with 50’ of welding cables.  
The question is: how much voltage?  16 volts at least but I am considering 18 
volts.  Enough cells to make two of these.  One I think I will make forkball 
with the skid steer for jump starting around the shop.  I know auto systems can 
take 16 volts without issue. Is 18 too much?

  Sent from my iPhone


  On Dec 31, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote:

    Yeah, pretty nice chests.  I bought one for the shop this year.  I also 
thought it was pretty cool that they now sell them in like ten different colors.

     

    On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 10:27 AM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

      For the past year I have been monitoring pricing on used tool chests.  
Snap-On, MAC etc.  Pricing them out by cents per cubic inch etc.  

       

      Last week was in Harbor Freight getting some air fittings and checked out 
their tool chests.  Brand new price is lower than the used pricing on name 
brand boxes.    

       

      So I bought a couple of them.  One for mechanic tools one for electrical 
tools and supplies.  

      Pretty nice.  The castors are not ball bearing but at least, for now, 
they are rolling nice.  The steel is not any thinner than name brand boxes.  
The ball bearing drawer slides are better than some old non bearing kennedy and 
craftsman boxes I have.  

       

      Too bad their sales always seem to exclude tool chests.  

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