i find it a fair trade off in cost. We were in process of pulling the 450 trigger when we tossed up EPMP for kicks. For the price on our size sites with only 20 to 40 customers per AP lacking ICC and tones is a non issue. You have to touch them all to verify firmare anyway, dumping config only adds maybe 30 seconds
On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 8:40 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > And I assume I’m not the only person who has ever tightened the screw on > the back of a 450b hi-gain too tight and pulled the threaded insert out of > the plastic in the feedtube? > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 2, 2019 7:07 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Installer color code for EPMP > > > > It’s yet another case of Cambium completely ignoring how customers use the > product and why the original Canopy equipment was so successful. > > > > AP proxy access to the SM, installer color code, and audio alignment allow > an installer to install without every having to use a computer - everything > is accessible to the CSR at the office. > > > > SM’s with snap on caps in waterproof upside down cups. Go ahead Cambium > - keep coming up with complex and difficult to install cable entry designs. > How many tiny parts and things to drop does a 450b have? Way too many. > > > > Brick power supplies with POE and data ports that look identical? At > least the original Canopy power supply only had one way to plug in the > cables wrong. Now customers can come up with even more creative ways to > wire it wrong. > > > > Mark > > > > On Jan 2, 2019, at 7:38 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > ....right the equivalent for ePMP would be a 2nd SSID that allows for > management access only. The unconfigured SM would have to look for that > SSID under some condition, such as if no other SSID allowed it to connect > or maybe if there are no preferred SSID's configured. The AP wouldn't have > the 2nd SSID on by default, so it only works if you intentionally enable it. > > I'm betting there's no reason they couldn't do it. Maybe they don't see > much demand for that feature. > > On 1/2/2019 6:04 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Installer color code is actually something different. It allows an > installer to register an unconfigured SM to an AP, it won’t pass customer > data, but someone at the office can log into it via the AP proxy and put in > the color code. I say “unconfigured”, but I really mean generic config, > you need to have the frequency enabled. > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> <[email protected]> *On Behalf > Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 2, 2019 2:39 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Installer color code for EPMP > > > > I've had tons of issues over the years, including yesterday, where we had > multiple Preferred APs. Having 1 is only a disadvantage when the one AP > goes bad with a nearby "backup" and if you're preparing for that I feel > like you've got a lot more problems on your hand. > > > > I guess maybe it is a feature sell on the 450 =( > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 2:20 PM Josh Baird <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yep - because manually shuffling customers around after an outage is super > annoying. > > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 2:15 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yeah, I know... Cambium said they were looking into doing that at one > point, but it doesn't seem like anything will every come of it... maybe > they'll at least do it on the ePMP 3000 at some point. > > > > Ideally, if a preferred AP isn't set, it should periodically rescan for > the strongest AP, and if a preferred AP is set, it should rescan for the > preferred AP. > > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 1:00 PM Josh Baird <[email protected]> wrote: > > Only thing annoying about NOT SETTING a preferred AP is that if the AP > reboots, customers can hop over to a non-ideal AP. > > > > Only bad thing about SETTING a preferred AP is that clients can't hop over > to another AP if you need to take an AP offline for an extended period of > time. > > > > If only the SM would periodically rescan when it's NOT connected to the > preferred AP, and reconnect to the preferred AP.. but Cambium doesn't seem > to be listening. > > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 1:29 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yeah, we do the same. If you use the same key everywhere, and just don't > set any preferred AP, it will connect to any AP that key is valid on. > > > > We generally never even bother setting a preferred AP, unless we have > problems with a particular SM connecting to the wrong AP. > > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 12:18 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> > wrote: > > we just use the same key with different ESSIDs and have a dump file. We > cant go new out of box, but nothing leaves the shop without the dump file > and it only takes a couple minutes in the van if its not there. > > > > On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 3:08 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Has this idea been left to rot? Haven't heard anything about it at all in > a couple of years and I keep thinking it would be so handy, especially in > winter time. > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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