I can’t even drive to many repeaters this time of year.  Takes me longer to get 
to a microwave site than they take to restore the fiber.

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> On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:40 PM, Matt Hoppes <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Here’s a great example. 
> 
> Just happened:
> It’s 3:30pm eastern. 
> 
> The backbones between Allegheny Center Mall and Slippery Rock University are 
> currently unavailable. Crown Castle Engineers have determined that the reason 
> for outage is fiber damage. Repair work is underway. The estimated time of 
> total recovery is 8:00 PM EST.
> 
> Restoration of 8pm. That’s five hours or more (this doesn’t take into 
> consideration time to get there and diagnose. Just the splice work). 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 2:27 PM, dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> We just need a GIANT Satellite in space that will emit static discharge with 
>> infrared as a primary blanket of coverage using a laser beam to feed it. 
>> 
>> All looks good on paper :)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/25/19 11:06 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> With 100% underground construction, fire doesn't bother it much.  However 
>>> most folks probably don't realize that handholes will burn.  They are 
>>> polymer concrete. 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Monday, February 25, 
>>> 2019 9:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Earthquake Fiber vs 
>>> Microwave 
>>>> On 2/25/19 8:30 AM, [email protected] wrote: 
>>>> I know I can throw a temp chunk of fiber on the ground and have things up 
>>>> and running in an hour or two. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If you can gain entry to do that. Look at the major CA fire zones that just 
>>> happened: nobody was getting in for weeks on end. But I did see a lot of 
>>> emergency PCNs for new microwave paths that skipped over closed areas. 
>>> Nobody is going to let you work on a temporary splice next to a building 
>>> that's partially collapsed. Or a broken gas line. Or a broken water line 
>>> that's undermining the area. Roads/bridges can become impassable in 
>>> seconds. So many variables that could keep you out of any given area you 
>>> could shoot over with microwave much faster. With fire tower sites are 
>>> often defensible structures for fire crews. 
>>> 
>>> In earthquake or fire disaster planning always include microwave. If you 
>>> have to realign you're guaranteed to only need access to the endpoints not 
>>> potentially X number of midpoints if there's more than one fiber break. 
>>> 
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