We need to know what they are basing this throughput on compression, frame 
size, etc.  no way they can claim a 64 MHz bw (reference the emission 
designator in the chart) has the same throughput as a true 80 MHz bw radio at 
the same modulation.

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> On Feb 26, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Peter Kranz <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I also believe the Dragonwave Radio is actually a full 80Mhz channel based on 
> the throughput..
> For instance, the Bridgewave/Remec Navigator 80Mhz/2048QAM radio is 1248 Mbps 
> vs 1252 Mbps from the Dragonwave vs 1370 for the Aviat..
>  
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> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Peter Kranz
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 2:58 PM
> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Higher power 18Ghz radios..
>  
> @Tim..
>  
> WTM platform may not support 80Mhz channel in 18Ghz, you may be stuck with 50 
> Mhz according to the technical datasheet:
>  
> <image001.png>
> <image002.png>
> So, reviewing… The delta between 64Mhz and 80Mhz is not that high.. ~118 Mbps 
> or around 9% which is interesting given the 25% more theoretical BW.
>  
> Aviat 50 Mhz/2048QAM = 850 Mbps
> Aviat 80Mhz/2048QAM = 1370 Mbps
> DW 64 Mhz/2048 QAM  = 1252 Mbps
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> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tim Hardy
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:53 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Higher power 18Ghz radios..
>  
>  
> Just an FYI..
> According to this chart, the occupied bandwidth is only 64.5 MHz so you will 
> be losing capacity vs radios that occupy the full 80 MHz bandwidth.  The DW 
> radio will have to be coordinated and licensed in one of the 80 MHz channel 
> allocations as there are no FCC channel plans between 51 MHz and 79 MHz.  
> There are only 4-channel pairs available at 80 MHz and its difficult to 
> coordinate multiple pairs in many areas as a result.  Finally, while these 
> power levels are impressive, they don't tell the full story and you really 
> need to compare the system gain values at the desired modulations.  The DW 
> 64.5 MHz radio’s system gain at 2048 QAM is 83 dB vs. the WTM 4100 80 MHz  
> radio’s system gain at 2048 QAM which will be 73.5 dB.
>  
> 
> On Feb 26, 2019, at 12:19 PM, Peter Kranz <[email protected]> wrote:
>  
> +31 is the advertised 2048QAM output on the HP variant. Dragonwave contacted 
> me offline and is indicating a March availability. Here is the table of power 
> output levels for that radio. It should also support 4096QAM, but I’m not 
> sure if that’s available in the software yet.
>  
> <image001.png>
>  
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> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 8:27 PM
> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Higher power 18Ghz radios..
>  
> Looks like PTP820c is only +16.
>  
> You’re talking about xmt power actually at 2048QAM modulation, right?  +31 is 
> hard to believe.
>  
> I remember hearing that Broadcom was supposed to have a chip with adaptive 
> digital predistortion for high xmt power also 4096QAM not sure if that became 
> real.
>  
> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Peter Kranz
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 6:51 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [AFMUG] Higher power 18Ghz radios..
>  
> Dragonwave announced over a year ago the Harmony Enhanced 18HP, with +31 TX 
> power at 2048 QAM, but have never made it to production as far as I know. 
> From the top of my head, here are some of the major radios TX power in 18 Ghz 
> band:
>  
> Dragonwave Harmony Enahcend HP – 31 <Vaporware?>
> Dragonwave Harmony Enhanced SP – 22
> Bridgewave Navigator – 19
> Aviat WTM 4200 – 17.5
> SIAE AlfoPlus2 – 17
>  
> Curious if anyone is aware of an 18Ghz dual core radio capable of higher TX 
> power at 2048QAM? It’s quite difficult to license 6Ghz or 11Ghz paths in my 
> market.
>  
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