What Ubiquiti did with the AF11 was use the cheapest chip they could find that 
met some other requirements. 




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From: "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 2:26:18 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Higher power 18Ghz radios.. 


Interesting, so I'm guessing that they're able to reduce the noise to an 
acceptable level at that high of power by using a narrower channel... kind of 
like what Ubiquiti did with the AirFiber 11. 



On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 1:54 PM Tim Hardy < [email protected] > wrote: 






Just an FYI.. According to this chart, the occupied bandwidth is only 64.5 MHz 
so you will be losing capacity vs radios that occupy the full 80 MHz bandwidth. 
The DW radio will have to be coordinated and licensed in one of the 80 MHz 
channel allocations as there are no FCC channel plans between 51 MHz and 79 
MHz. There are only 4-channel pairs available at 80 MHz and its difficult to 
coordinate multiple pairs in many areas as a result. Finally, while these power 
levels are impressive, they don't tell the full story and you really need to 
compare the system gain values at the desired modulations. The DW 64.5 MHz 
radio’s system gain at 2048 QAM is 83 dB vs. the WTM 4100 80 MHz radio’s system 
gain at 2048 QAM which will be 73.5 dB. 



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On Feb 26, 2019, at 12:19 PM, Peter Kranz < [email protected] > wrote: 



+31 is the advertised 2048QAM output on the HP variant. Dragonwave contacted me 
offline and is indicating a March availability. Here is the table of power 
output levels for that radio. It should also support 4096QAM, but I’m not sure 
if that’s available in the software yet. 

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Peter Kranz 
www.UnwiredLtd.com 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 
Mobile: 510-207-0000 
[email protected] 



From: AF < [email protected] > On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 8:27 PM 
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' < [email protected] > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Higher power 18Ghz radios.. 

Looks like PTP820c is only +16. 

You’re talking about xmt power actually at 2048QAM modulation, right? +31 is 
hard to believe. 

I remember hearing that Broadcom was supposed to have a chip with adaptive 
digital predistortion for high xmt power also 4096QAM not sure if that became 
real. 



From: AF < [email protected] > On Behalf Of Peter Kranz 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 6:51 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: [AFMUG] Higher power 18Ghz radios.. 

Dragonwave announced over a year ago the Harmony Enhanced 18HP, with +31 TX 
power at 2048 QAM, but have never made it to production as far as I know. >From 
the top of my head, here are some of the major radios TX power in 18 Ghz band: 

Dragonwave Harmony Enahcend HP – 31 <Vaporware?> 
Dragonwave Harmony Enhanced SP – 22 
Bridgewave Navigator – 19 
Aviat WTM 4200 – 17.5 
SIAE AlfoPlus2 – 17 

Curious if anyone is aware of an 18Ghz dual core radio capable of higher TX 
power at 2048QAM? It’s quite difficult to license 6Ghz or 11Ghz paths in my 
market. 

Peter Kranz 
www.UnwiredLtd.com 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 
Mobile: 510-207-0000 
[email protected] 
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