And in 5 billion years the sun will be a red giant and all life on earth will 
be long gone.

But the good news is, that half the depleted uranium that we will be storing 
out in the west desert will still be there in its pristine condition and the 
other half will have decayed into non radioactive lead.  

Nothing but good news here today.

From: Jeremy 
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:19 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Earthquake Fiber vs Microwave

Well, here in Utah we have all this lakebed sediment on the benches.  
Liquefaction will likely end up putting your fiber 100' below the surface.  All 
of the towers will be on the ground as well....everyone will be dead....nobody 
will care about the Internets.


On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 9:48 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

  Loma Prieta earthquake of 1989...I was working for Kaiser Hospitals in their 
NOC on the 9th floor of a 21 story building in downtown Oakland when the 
earthquake hit...watched the Cypress freeway collapse outside the office window 
(horrible image)...at the time, Kaiser had their own private microwave network 
linking all their hospitals and medical office buildings in Northern California 
and we managed the network from the NOC in Oakland.
  https://kaiserpermanentehistory.org/tag/telecommunications/

  Happy to say that none of the microwave systems went down during/after the 
earthquake. All we lost were T1s coming in from PacBell (AT&T) (two blocks over 
from their Oakland CO) that were used for external timing. So we had a few 
clock slips, but the network was 100% operational. Had to make it up to Grizzly 
Peak at 3am to start the generator as the power went off and that site was on 
batter power, but the microwave links were not affected.

  You can't guarantee that an earthquake or hurricane won't take out links, but 
you can mitigate much of that with implementing good designs with contingencies 
and maintaining your systems.

  >>> Lewis Bergman <[email protected]> 2/25/2019 2:20 PM >>>

  I don't have earthquake knowledge but I do know that when the US bombed the 
crap or of Iraq a huge amount O of fiber was destroyed by the percussion of the 
explosions. As a result all US bases that I know of were rebuilt using heavy 
rigid conduit. Cost the fortunes. 

  I doubt there is any direct correlation and I don't know if extremely rigid 
conduit would survive a quake better than anything else. I saw a documentary on 
it years back. 


  On Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 3:25 PM Seth Mattinen <[email protected]> wrote:

    UNR has an earthquake lab. No idea how much it costs to get time on the 
    equipment though outside of a research project (industry user). Probably 
    not cheap.

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