Different programs have different rules.  In NY BPO programs they specifically wanted companies that already existed and already did business in NY as an ISP. If they only wanted disclosure that wouldn't be a show stopper. That would just mean they want a chain of responsibility to follow if you create a shell company for the project and then spend their money on a Ferrari.

-Adam


On 3/1/2019 5:23 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
I believe you have to clearly disclose all associations with sister companies 
that you have and Own, so I’m not sure this would fly.

On Mar 1, 2019, at 5:11 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

I don't know the answers, but regarding install equipment, couldn't you create 
another company or subsidiary that buys all that fancy gear and then pay them 
prevailing wage, so that they can pay for the equipment with the profits?  At 
the end of the project, your other company owns some plows, bucket trucks, 
fusion splicers, etc.  I think this is how it worked with some of the BTOP 
middle mile projects.


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From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 3:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AFMUG] Fiber and USDA/CAF

For anyone who has applied for usda or caf funding for fiber.

How did the process work for you?  It seems like a catch 22.

Do you engineer the network first and then apply for the funds you need?

Or apply using good faith estimates and then engineer after you’ve been awarded?

What happens if you don’t use all the funds?  Do you just give them back?  What 
happens if you run out? (I assume you are obligated to return the uses funds or 
finish the build using your own capital)

Can usda/caf funding generally be used to purchase equipment (eg vibratory 
plow, bucket truck) or only the infrastructure? (Eg fiber)?
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