"But the team is making extraordinary claims about charging, saying the
Mark Zero is capable of blast-charging from 0 to 80 percent of its full
capacity in 4 minutes and 40 seconds. The battery is built by Desten Group,
Limited <http://www.desten.com/>, a Chinese/German operation based in Hong
Kong.

Desten is cagey with details about its batteries, but claims "exceptionally
high charge rates, 10C or higher," as well as power density in excess of
1600 watts per kilogram. The company says its cells can be fast charged and
discharged 5,000 times before they drop to a capacity of 80 percent,
suggesting excellent longevity particularly if the cars are charged slowly
overnight most of the time."

Definitely not a mistake... who knows whether or not they can actually do
it, but there appears to be a few different companies claiming they're
making batteries that can handle 10C charge rates. I think they're just
using the battery manufacturer's charging claims, and not actually
expecting to be able to charge a real car that fast.

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 7:26 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

> It is fake news, I am certain.  A 1 MVA transformer will be as large as
> the car.
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Monday, March 04, 2019 6:19 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT New electric car
>
> I don't think it was a matter of misinterpretation, there are lots of
> different websites saying "under five minutes"... they can't all be making
> that mistake.
>
> I suppose it could be something like it's possible to charge these mystery
> batteries that fast, but it isn't actually going to happen in a real car.
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 6:54 PM Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Pretty sure the people writing the article misread or misinterpreted that
>> line of text, lol!
>>
>>
>>
>> Math just doesn’t add up.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 4, 2019 5:41 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT New electric car
>>
>>
>>
>> The headline reads:
>>
>> All-electric GT unveiled with over 300 miles of range and 5-min charging
>> enabled by mysterious battery
>> <https://electrek.co/2019/03/04/electric-gt-piech-mark-zero-mysterious-battery/>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Sterling Jacobson
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 04, 2019 5:00 PM
>>
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT New electric car
>>
>>
>>
>> Again, I think they meant about 5 hours to charge, not just under four
>> minutes, lol!
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 4, 2019 4:43 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT New electric car
>>
>>
>>
>> I thought I read that Tesla announced a new "super" super charger that
>> could do 350KW.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> bp
>>
>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 2:28 PM Nate Burke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Isn't that the kind of electric service you have running to your house?
>> Didn't I see the latest Tesla chargers are 200-250kw.
>>
>> On 3/4/2019 4:20 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> Piech Mark Zero
>>
>> Claims 311 mile range.  At 3.11 miles per kW that would be a 100 kWh
>> battery.  OK, within the realm of posibilities.
>>
>>
>>
>> 4:40 minutes to 80% battery capacity.
>>
>>
>>
>> So 280 seconds or .077 hours to dump 83 kWh into the battery.
>>
>> 83/.077=1067 kW
>>
>>
>>
>> So you have to have 1 Megawatt power source to charge?
>>
>> 2223 amps of 480 service.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am doubting this.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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