There are nano-carbon anode battery experiments from 2-3 years ago that claimed just that kind of charging density. Could they have gotten that to actual into production? The word out here is that the Tesla plant is in the process of moving to the next generation of battery production.

On 3/4/19 5:41 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
"But the team is making extraordinary claims about charging, saying the Mark Zero is capable of blast-charging from 0 to 80 percent of its full capacity in 4 minutes and 40 seconds. The battery is built by Desten Group, Limited <http://www.desten.com/>, a Chinese/German operation based in Hong Kong.

Desten is cagey with details about its batteries, but claims "exceptionally high charge rates, 10C or higher," as well as power density in excess of 1600 watts per kilogram. The company says its cells can be fast charged and discharged 5,000 times before they drop to a capacity of 80 percent, suggesting excellent longevity particularly if the cars are charged slowly overnight most of the time."

Definitely not a mistake... who knows whether or not they can actually do it, but there appears to be a few different companies claiming they're making batteries that can handle 10C charge rates. I think they're just using the battery manufacturer's charging claims, and not actually expecting to be able to charge a real car that fast.


On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 7:26 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    It is fake news, I am certain.  A 1 MVA transformer will be as large
    as the car.
    *From:* Mathew Howard
    *Sent:* Monday, March 04, 2019 6:19 PM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT New electric car
    I don't think it was a matter of misinterpretation, there are lots
    of different websites saying "under five minutes"... they can't all
    be making that mistake.
    I suppose it could be something like it's possible to charge these
    mystery batteries that fast, but it isn't actually going to happen
    in a real car.
    On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 6:54 PM Sterling Jacobson
    <[email protected]> wrote:

        Pretty sure the people writing the article misread or
        misinterpreted that line of text, lol!____

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        Math just doesn’t add up.____

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        *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
        *Sent:* Monday, March 4, 2019 5:41 PM
        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT New electric car____

        ____

        The headline reads:____

        All-electric GT unveiled with over 300 miles of range and 5-min
        charging enabled by mysterious battery
        
<https://electrek.co/2019/03/04/electric-gt-piech-mark-zero-mysterious-battery/>____

        ____

        *From:*Sterling Jacobson ____

        *Sent:*Monday, March 04, 2019 5:00 PM____

        *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ____

        *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT New electric car____

        ____

        Again, I think they meant about 5 hours to charge, not just
        under four minutes, lol!____

        ____

        *From:*AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
        *Sent:* Monday, March 4, 2019 4:43 PM
        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT New electric car____

        ____

        I thought I read that Tesla announced a new "super" super
        charger that could do 350KW.____


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        part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com____

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        On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 2:28 PM Nate Burke <[email protected]>
        wrote:____

            Isn't that the kind of electric service you have running to
            your house?  Didn't I see the latest Tesla chargers are
            200-250kw. ____

            On 3/4/2019 4:20 PM, [email protected] wrote:____

                Piech Mark Zero____

                Claims 311 mile range.  At 3.11 miles per kW that would
                be a 100 kWh battery.  OK, within the realm of
                posibilities.____

                ____

                4:40 minutes to 80% battery capacity.____

                ____

                So 280 seconds or .077 hours to dump 83 kWh into the
                battery.____

                83/.077=1067 kW____

                ____

                So you have to have 1 Megawatt power source to charge? ____

                2223 amps of 480 service. ____

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                I am doubting this. ____

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